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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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jgvol

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45430 on: June 18, 2025, 10:08:10 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 10:06:50 AM
It's what I'm asking YOU. Why?

Read CD's response above yours, and MDT's as well, and you might start to get an answer.

Couldn't say.  I'm still waiting on those WMD's in Iraq.  Can't say WHY they haven't found those either.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45431 on: June 18, 2025, 10:13:18 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on June 18, 2025, 10:08:10 AM
Couldn't say.  I'm still waiting on those WMD's in Iraq.  Can't say WHY they haven't found those either.

Ridiculous red herring.  Only you are talking about Iraq.

Iran has publicly stated they're enriching U235 to 60%.  Why are they doing so?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45432 on: June 18, 2025, 10:17:20 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 10:13:18 AM
Only you are talking about Iraq.

Iran has publicly stated they're enriching U235 to 60%.  Why are they doing so?

Colin Powell and Condi Rice assured me there were WMD's in Iraq, so we must bomb them into oblivion and change the regime.  No WMD's detected.  

How you can't see the relation is surprising.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45433 on: June 18, 2025, 10:18:17 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on June 18, 2025, 10:17:20 AM
Colin Powell and Condi Rice assured me there were WMD's in Iraq, so we must bomb them into oblivion and change the regime.  No WMD's detected. 

How you can't see the relation is surprising.
We're not talking about anything, anyone in the USA has told you. 

We're talking about what Iran has publicly, openly admitted.

How you can't see the difference is surprising.

Iran has admitted to enriching U235 to 60%.  Why are they doing so? 

It's a super simple question that you are insistent on avoiding and ignoring.  I wonder why?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45434 on: June 18, 2025, 10:20:15 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 10:18:17 AM
We're not talking about anything, anyone in the USA has told you. 

We're talking about what Iran has publicly, openly admitted.

How you can't see the difference is surprising.

Iran has admitted to enriching U2365 to 60%.  Why are they doing so? 

It's a super simple question that you are insistent on avoiding and ignoring.  I wonder why?


Iran said this last night. I'm still waiting...........



  • "Chilling threat" of a memorable surprise: Prior to recent Israeli strikes, Iran issued a warning saying "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."


They say dumb shit.  Stunner.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45435 on: June 18, 2025, 10:21:08 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on June 18, 2025, 10:20:15 AM
Iran said this last night. I'm still waiting...........



  • "Chilling threat" of a memorable surprise: Prior to recent Israeli strikes, Iran issued a warning saying "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."


They say dumb shit.  Stunner.



So, you don't believe that they are enriching U235 to 60%?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45436 on: June 18, 2025, 10:21:47 AM »
this pot seems to be stirring itself, my work is done here
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45437 on: June 18, 2025, 10:22:10 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 18, 2025, 10:21:47 AM
this pot seems to be stirring itself, my work is done here
This thread self-stirs, that is its nature.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45438 on: June 18, 2025, 10:24:36 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 10:21:08 AM
So, you don't believe that they are enriching U235 to 60%?

I don't know. (how many times I can state it?).  And neither do you.  Well, you may believe it, but you don't "know".

Do you believe Iran on these things as well?


  • Refusal to surrender and warnings of "irreparable damage" to the US: In response to US calls for Iran to surrender, Khamenei stated that Iran will never surrender and that any US military intervention would lead to irreparable damage. He also claimed that the US intervention would be "100% to its own detriment" and that the damage it would suffer would be "far greater than any harm that Iran may encounter".
  • Dismissal of Trump's "absurd rhetoric": Khamenei dismissed President Trump's demands and threats, including calling Khamenei an "easy target", as "absurd rhetoric" and declared that the Iranian nation is not intimidated by such threats.

"Chilling threat" of a memorable surprise: Prior to recent Israeli strikes, Iran issued a warning saying "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45439 on: June 18, 2025, 10:28:03 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on June 18, 2025, 10:24:36 AM
I don't know. (how many times I can state it?).  And neither do you.  Well, you may believe it, but you don't "know".

Do you believe Iran on these things as well?


  • Refusal to surrender and warnings of "irreparable damage" to the US: In response to US calls for Iran to surrender, Khamenei stated that Iran will never surrender and that any US military intervention would lead to irreparable damage. He also claimed that the US intervention would be "100% to its own detriment" and that the damage it would suffer would be "far greater than any harm that Iran may encounter".
  • Dismissal of Trump's "absurd rhetoric": Khamenei dismissed President Trump's demands and threats, including calling Khamenei an "easy target", as "absurd rhetoric" and declared that the Iranian nation is not intimidated by such threats.

"Chilling threat" of a memorable surprise: Prior to recent Israeli strikes, Iran issued a warning saying "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."



Gotcha, you've elected to disengage your brain on the topic. Fair enough, no reason for further debate in the face of your insistence on engaging in repeated logical fallacy.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45440 on: June 18, 2025, 10:33:55 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 10:28:03 AM
Gotcha, you've elected to disengage your brain on the topic. Fair enough, no reason for further debate in the face of your insistence on engaging in repeated logical fallacy.


Funny enough, you demand answers, yet won't answer on any of Iran's other absurd bloviating.

Call it disengaging my brain if you will.  Not one of us "everymen" know jack shit, never will, and to believe what the TV tells you is .....well, let's just say I gave up on that.

You could be 100% correct, and Iran is "weeks" away this time.  Doesn't matter much since it's apparent that this war was predetermined, Iran will be decimated, and they will not acquire a nuclear bomb.  No need to get all worked up.  You'll get the outcome you seem to desire.



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45441 on: June 18, 2025, 10:34:24 AM »
If I'm Iran, I'd want AT LEAST to be on the verge of having deliverable nuclear weapons.  Maybe I can say I don't have any, truthfully, but in any emergency I could make several and have delivery capability.

It's now an emergency.  And likely too late.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45442 on: June 18, 2025, 10:38:01 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 18, 2025, 10:34:24 AM
If I'm Iran, I'd want AT LEAST to be on the verge of having deliverable nuclear weapons.  Maybe I can say I don't have any, truthfully, but in any emergency I could make several and have delivery capability.

It's now an emergency.  And likely too late.



Just posing a question....

Suppose they do acquire the ability to deliver a nuke.  Do you think they'd actually drop one?  Or do they want it as a deterrent, like everyone else?  It's fairly understood that it's a literal death sentence to anyone, and the entire, planet if someone actually drops one.  They are dumb.  Are they that dumb?

Pakistan has them.  N. Korea has them.  I don't trust them any more than I do Iran.

FTR -- I wish none of the outlaw nations had them, and that includes Iran.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45443 on: June 18, 2025, 10:38:57 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on June 18, 2025, 10:33:55 AM
Funny enough, you demand answers, yet won't answer on any of Iran's other absurd bloviating.

Call it disengaging my brain if you will.  Not one of us "everymen" know jack shit, never will, and to believe what the TV tells you is .....well, let's just say I gave up on that.

You could be 100% correct, and Iran is "weeks" away this time.  Doesn't matter much since it's apparent that this war was predetermined, Iran will be decimated, and they will not acquire a nuclear bomb.  No need to get all worked up.  You'll get the outcome you seem to desire.




I don't "desire" any kind of outcome.  I'm asking honest questions and receiving illogical red herring responses.

Iran has openly admitted they are enriching uranium to 60%.  The IAEA has performed inspections of the Iranian facilities and reported that Iran is stockpiling uranium that is enriched to 60%.

If you don't want to believe these two independent, non-affiliated, and arguably opposed sources that are telling you the same thing, that's up to you, but consequently you've exited the world of rational debate.
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