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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45360 on: June 14, 2025, 07:23:13 AM »
Indirectly, yes. All shareholders do.

But you didn't found Apple.
Musk didn't found Tesla either, not that it's relevant.

I'd guess he did get options along the way and probably cashed them, so he would have paid FICA taxes on that.  Whatever he paid would be capped of course.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45361 on: June 14, 2025, 07:30:40 AM »
I tried to follow the climate change thing as closely as I "could" for decades, reading the IPCC summaries, some articles in Nature (which were mostly unreadable), and various summaries and arguments against.  At least I came to the realization that the technical details are well beyond my level of interest and ability.  I did realize Gore's movie thing was full of exaggeration and would act counter to any general understanding of the risk.

There still are folks who think Florida will be largely under water in a few years, or decades.  It won't, unless the models are way way off.  Projected sea level rise by 2100 is a couple feet. Projected T rise is 2-3°C, by 2100.  

Neither is good overall, I think, if that happens, but it won't lead to extinction of humanity either.

The other very obvious point is that "we" globally are not really doing anything substantive to stop CO2 production increments.  <aune Germany is, even US levels are ebbing, but that isn't nearly enough to offset what China/India are doing.

So, we're going to "run the experiment" and find out if the models are right.  There is some change they are wrong the wrong way.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45362 on: June 14, 2025, 07:36:59 AM »
I think it is generally accepted that Iran had enriched uranium to 60% 235 and had kgs of the stuff, which doesn't make a lot of sense if they just need it for reactors or medical work.

Anyway, Israel acted, based on their intelligence, which probably is greater than my own.
the enriched uranium has been generally accepted for decades
I agree, Israel's intelligence knows more than most, maybe more than the US.  Something could have changed recently.  Maybe something unrelated to uranium. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45363 on: June 14, 2025, 07:40:40 AM »
When I heard a few days ago that the US evacuated non-essential* staff from the Iraq Embassy, I kinda figured something was up.

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* If they are non-essential, WTF are they doing there in the first place?!? Come in, DOGE. I got something for ya.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45364 on: June 14, 2025, 08:01:17 AM »
Nonessential might include folks they need over a longer term basis, but not day by day.


  • Administrative Staff:
    This includes roles like office managers, secretaries, and certain types of clerical support that are not directly involved in high-level diplomatic work.
  • Technical Support:
    Some technical support roles, particularly those focused on IT or infrastructure that is not directly related to embassy security, might be considered nonessential.
  • Specialized Roles:
    Certain specialized roles, like some cultural or educational program staff, may be considered nonessential if their work is not directly tied to immediate diplomatic needs.
  • Locally Employed Staff:
    Many embassies employ local staff, and their roles are often categorized as essential or nonessential based on the specific needs of the embassy.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45365 on: June 14, 2025, 08:04:11 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-ali-khamenei-israel-strikes-66aac175?st=qZXfTe&amp;reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-ali-khamenei-israel-strikes-66aac175?st=qZXfTe&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45366 on: June 14, 2025, 09:56:31 AM »
A friend of mine shared this with me.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45367 on: June 14, 2025, 10:10:21 AM »
I usually see the usual liberals on Facebook popping off about whatever might have happened, but thus far, I've seen only one opine about the Israel/Iran thing.

Are they awaiting instructions as to how to think?

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45368 on: June 14, 2025, 10:11:14 AM »
I have a strong distaste for that shirt.  America is not infallible, so you should not be expected to support it unwaveringly. 

Anyway, I think I need to drink coffee I am feeling too cantankerous for a Saturday. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45369 on: June 14, 2025, 10:15:44 AM »
Today is flag day. I'm not turning on the TV because I don't want to see one burn. I've a strong distaste for that.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45370 on: June 14, 2025, 10:21:13 AM »
The "Love it or leave it" motto never resonated with me either.  One can have issues with a country and work to get them fixed and be patriotic about it.

I have issues with the US, but I'm too tired to try and fix them.

Beyond posting on social media a lot.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45371 on: June 14, 2025, 10:23:13 AM »
I've loved this country through every government in my lifetime and I'm never going to stop loving it.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45372 on: June 14, 2025, 10:33:28 AM »
Today is flag day. I'm not turning on the TV because I don't want to see one burn. I've a strong distaste for that.
they are simply trying to fix some issues
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45373 on: June 14, 2025, 12:20:00 PM »
The "Love it or leave it" motto never resonated with me either.  One can have issues with a country and work to get them fixed and be patriotic about it.

I have issues with the US, but I'm too tired to try and fix them.

Beyond posting on social media a lot.

If you are not a US born citizen, and came here by choice, support the country, or crawl back to the dump you came from.  

 

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