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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44969 on: June 05, 2025, 02:27:59 PM »
And yet -- Eric Swalwell still sits in Congress.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44970 on: June 05, 2025, 02:30:44 PM »
I beg to differ. War doesn't strictly apply to military operations.
well yeah, it actually kind of does. war = well.....war. if you want to say we are in a "trade war" or we are fighting economic warfare with them- sure. an actual war? nah. it's not even a proxy war like we have been fighting with Russia via Ukraine.

There is zero evidence that China desires a direct conflict with guns blazing with the United States. They are way too smart for that shit. They are happy to sit back and let us fuck shit up all around the world and overextend ourselves and bankrupt ourselves in the process of running the empire, meanwhile stealing all of our IP/tech, taking our manufacturing base and sell absolute cheap crap back to us and get rich off us. 

And I'd like to remind you and everyone here that the US has just under 800 (give or take) foreign military bases around the world with just under 200 of those encircling China, meanwhile China has....wait for it....one foreign military base- in Africa. I'd like to remind everyone here that the US has a history of doing all kinds of fuckery and shenanigans from funding fake protests and paying off media & politicians to destabilize a country to overthrowing governments and assassinations of leaders they do not like when they want to influence foreign nations- meanwhile when China tries to curry influence in foreign nations by wait for it.....building roads, bridges, and ports for foreign nations. I'd like to remind everyone here that the United States has bombed, invaded and overthrown governments all around the world for the last 80 years- China...ehhh....not so much.

I mean shit- just look at the last 20ish years- China illegally invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and occupied both countries for decades, China bombed the shit out of Libya and overthrew that nation and turned it into a failed state, China used it's intelligence agencies and clandestine special operations services to overthrow Syria and destroy and destabilize that country and China currently occupies a third of Syria as we speak....oh wait FUCK all that is the good ol' USA. My bad.

China have every reason to fear an actual war with military strikes from us, we kind of have a really solid track record of popping off at the hip and going to war and bombing and invading foreign countries and shit. No one has both directly and indirectly went all across the world on a rampage fucking shit up and destroying nations and killing people quite like the United States. It's pretty fucking remarkable actually. Have to hand it to us. The military industrial complex in the US is pretty fucking gnarly. We are the World War Champs for a reason. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44971 on: June 05, 2025, 02:32:15 PM »
They've identified 3 Chinese nationals voting illegally, or trying to smuggle bio weapons in, working at or attending UM in the past week.  Granted, I don't blame them, if there is one university proven to be pro-spy, its them.  :88:
Michigan and spying....what the fuck.....Connor Stallions has really rubbed off on that whole university I guess 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44972 on: June 05, 2025, 02:37:24 PM »
Where does all the fentanyl come from?

Oh, yeah...
no one should solely blame China for the fentanyl crisis. the Sackler family, FDA, and US gov't has tons of blame as does the main culprit....the Mexican Cartels and the pathetic excuse of a government in Mexico- which the cartels practically own. And oh yeah the CIA has been in bed with the cartels for only oh....fucking ever.

US could use it's NSA, CIA, drone strike programs, and special forces hit squads to decapitate the cartels. They don't. Wonder why that is.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44974 on: June 05, 2025, 02:39:59 PM »
no one should solely blame China for the fentanyl crisis. the Sackler family, FDA, and US gov't has tons of blame as does the main culprit....the Mexican Cartels and the pathetic excuse of a government in Mexico- which the cartels practically own. And oh yeah the CIA has been in bed with the cartels for only oh....fucking ever.

US could use it's NSA, CIA, drone strike programs, and special forces hit squads to decapitate the cartels. They don't. Wonder why that is.
The cartels get the shit from China and distribute it here - to the pleasure of China.

Why doesn't the US target cartels in Mexico? The Mexican government refuses to allow it. They are a strategic partner of the CCP.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44975 on: June 05, 2025, 02:46:40 PM »
a) Have you missed all of the recent (and much older) news articles about China sneaking spy gear into batteries, solar arrays, and pretty much anything else they manufacture and sell to the USA?  Not just with the capability to watch or listen, but to actively disable or destroy American infrastructure?  China's been at war with us-- real war, not just economic war-- for decades.
China sneaking spyware into electronic devices....which is exactly what the US does as well. They spy on us something horrific, and we spy on them too. We spy on everyone. 

Now actively disabling or destroying American infrastructure.....haven't heard of that....how does this work and what type of infrastructure? Communications? Energy? Genuinely curious. If anything that just shows that the US is absolutely retarded for ever allowing things to get to that point. Maybe manufacture really important things like communications, energy, medicine....on your own shores maybe? We have only ourselves to blame for allowing manufacturing to completely leave this country. A country that makes nothing is not a great country. A service based financialized economy where Wall Street banks play games with money to make more money is an absolute fucking joke. Shove your services and financial games up your fucking ass America. Get back to actually making, producing, and building actual things America, you stupid sons of bitches.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44976 on: June 05, 2025, 02:51:17 PM »
The cartels get the shit from China and distribute it here - to the pleasure of China.

Why doesn't the US target cartels in Mexico? The Mexican government refuses to allow it. They are a strategic partner of the CCP.
a) the cartels get the shit form China because China happens to be the lowest cost high volume provider of the drug- not to the pleasure of China. the Cartels are in business to make money- and they rake in billions of dollars. 

b) the last part is sorry- a joke. first of all the Mexican government is basically wholly owned by the cartels- it's 1000x worse than the Italian mafia in the US in the 1920s-1950s. And secondly- the US could give a fuckless about whatever the Mexican government says- if the powers that be in the US military industrial complex really wanted to start decapitating the cartels- they could do it. they don't want to do it. why?  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44977 on: June 05, 2025, 03:00:05 PM »
This place is always stop #1 for Mdot when he goes off his meds.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44978 on: June 05, 2025, 03:20:10 PM »
The Trump/Musk divorce is going as smoothly as one would expect. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44979 on: June 05, 2025, 03:22:24 PM »
Unfortunately, under federal and state law, certain circumstances allow the government to take your land. This legal power is known as eminent domain. It is the right of federal, state, other governmental, or quasi-governmental entities, and, in select instances, private companies to take private property for public use.

The history of eminent domain in the United States goes back to its founding. Some of the earliest examples involved a burgeoning federal government seizing tribal lands held by Native Americans. This began in the 1700s, during colonial years, and continued throughout the 1800s.

The U.S. military conducted many of these seizures, while others involved treaty agreements. Perhaps you’ve heard of the Trail of Tears? This infamous and tragic historical event occurred in the mid-1800s.

The U.S. government forcibly removed Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, Seminole, and Cherokee tribes from their homes. These tribes were then made to march from the southeastern part of the United States to what is now Oklahoma.

Eminent domain continued to be utilized throughout the 19th and 20th centuries and remains legal today. It’s a means of allowing the government to claim private property for public use. Other early examples of eminent domain include the federal government using privately owned land to expand highways, construct public buildings, bring water to populated, rural areas, and manufacture war materials.

What you're failing to account for is that the government then has to pay you market rate for the property, and/or move you to anotherplace of similar value. That's what the biggest cost is on a lot of our highway projects right now. On the current reconstruction of 494 down the Bloomington strip, there have been 9 figures worth of Legislature allocations for right-of-way purchases that have been made over the last 10 years. 

The part about moving is a law change from the late 50s and 60s, when the Minnesota Department of Highways (MnDOTs predecessor) buzzed down neighborhoods that were predominantly people of color, and offering nowhere to go. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44980 on: June 05, 2025, 03:25:42 PM »
The Trump/Musk divorce is going as smoothly as one would expect.
It was very predictable.

The Left can love Musk again now.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44981 on: June 05, 2025, 03:25:59 PM »
This place is always stop #1 for Mdot when he goes off his meds. 
Some of what he says is spot on,others a stretch - we definitely aren't in Kansas or Mayberry for the matter anymore.Everyone of those MIC A-Holes should swing along with the corrupt politicians that gave them license.The defense industry have already been gifted billions and we're not any safer
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