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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44142 on: April 29, 2025, 09:51:33 AM »
One piece of significant legislation can be obviously more of consequence than 50 pieces renaming Post Offices.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44143 on: April 29, 2025, 09:51:58 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 29, 2025, 09:51:33 AM
One piece of significant legislation can be obviously more of consequence than 50 pieces renaming Post Offices.


And the Gulf of 'Murica!
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44144 on: April 29, 2025, 09:52:50 AM »
Many of his orders are aimed at eliminating the ones from whoever was running the country the prior 4 years.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44145 on: April 29, 2025, 09:53:32 AM »
Marine fuel is generally 89 or 90 with no corn.

My car takes 91. Only Wawa has that.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44146 on: April 29, 2025, 09:58:50 AM »
All of our cars are designed to run on 87.

Some folks on the truck/towing forums say they get better power while towing if they increase to midgrade or premium.  Others say that's bunk.  As per usual, the internet is full of contradictions.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44147 on: April 29, 2025, 10:03:11 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 29, 2025, 09:58:50 AM
All of our cars are designed to run on 87.

Some folks on the truck/towing forums say they get better power while towing if they increase to midgrade or premium.  Others say that's bunk.  As per usual, the internet is full of contradictions.
Some cars/trucks will do a bit better on higher octane (or worse with lower anyway).  And I could see some engines on the verge of knocking in normal conditions that would knock under heavy load.  Even slight knocking is not good.  Maybe an engine knocks when towing up a hill for example.

Oddly enough, higher octane gas will give lower mpgs (if all else is constant) in a car not designed for higher octane.  The branching means fewer C-H bonds.

It's a small effect.

The GTI had higher octane "recommended", and I usually used it, occasionally I would put in midgrade, it seemed fine.  The Hyundai recommends regular which saves some money.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44148 on: April 29, 2025, 10:03:48 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2025, 09:53:32 AM
Marine fuel is generally 89 or 90 with no corn.

My car takes 91. Only Wawa has that.
Wawa chicken salad was weirdly good the one I had it
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44149 on: April 29, 2025, 10:05:01 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 29, 2025, 10:03:48 AM
Wawa chicken salad was weirdly good the one I had it
They have good food. Legit good.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44150 on: April 29, 2025, 10:09:55 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 29, 2025, 10:03:11 AM
Some cars/trucks will do a bit better on higher octane (or worse with lower anyway).  And I could see some engines on the verge of knocking in normal conditions that would knock under heavy load.  Even slight knocking is not good.  Maybe an engine knocks when towing up a hill for example.

Oddly enough, higher octane gas will give lower mpgs (if all else is constant) in a car not designed for higher octane.  The branching means fewer C-H bonds.
Yeah, no knocking in my truck running 87 under both normal conditions and heavy load, so I've never bothered with trying higher grades.  "They" say you get more power.

I might try it on our next trip just to see, there are some pretty good hills on the way out to Fredericksburg and I'm very familiar with how it tows that route using 87 so I should be able to detect any differences, if there are any. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44151 on: April 29, 2025, 10:16:59 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2025, 10:05:01 AM
They have good food. Legit good.
As a Philly burbs kid, it is great to see the gospel of Wawa spread. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44152 on: April 29, 2025, 10:17:21 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 29, 2025, 09:49:56 AM
While E85 is typically cheaper per gallon than gasoline it might be more expensive per mile. Since ethanol contains less energy per volume than gasoline, FFVs will generally get 15%-27% fewer miles per gallon when fueled with E85, depending on the car and the driver’s driving habits.
yup, E85 is almost always 30% cheaper than 93 or 91 premium
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44153 on: April 29, 2025, 10:19:36 AM »
I believe because I've been told my guys smarter than I, that if the engine isn't made for or tuned for higher octane, you'll see no performace boost by using higher octane
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44154 on: April 29, 2025, 10:24:25 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 29, 2025, 10:19:36 AM
I believe because I've been told my guys smarter than I, that if the engine isn't made for or tuned for higher octane, you'll see no performace boost by using higher octane
Yeah this is my understanding as well.  Which is why I'm skeptical.  But some of the towing bros swear by it.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44155 on: April 29, 2025, 10:29:23 AM »
yeah, I know some of those guys - I just let em keep thinkin - they don't have dyno numbers
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