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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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847badgerfan

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43904 on: April 25, 2025, 11:14:26 AM »
The Democrats are consistently against voter ID for some reason
uhhh...
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43905 on: April 25, 2025, 11:34:07 AM »
I think part of it is that so many dead people like to vote Democrat.

And we can't deny the dead their right to vote.  That would be anti-deceasite!




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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43906 on: April 25, 2025, 11:35:39 AM »
Do you guys actually want the reason, or is it more fun to assume it's because Democrats love voter fraud?

PS It's not the latter.

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« Reply #43907 on: April 25, 2025, 11:35:44 AM »
The Democrats are consistently against voter ID for some reason. 
another reason they don't understand the voters and don't fare well in elections
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43908 on: April 25, 2025, 11:40:45 AM »
Do you guys actually want the reason, or is it more fun to assume it's because Democrats love voter fraud?

PS It's not the latter.
Yes.
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« Reply #43909 on: April 25, 2025, 11:43:03 AM »
I understand it's about access and not limiting access for some classes of legit voters
I just don't agree that there's a real issue with the limitations being proposed
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43910 on: April 25, 2025, 11:52:10 AM »
Neither was student loan forgiveness, among many other things.
And that got blocked. 

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« Reply #43911 on: April 25, 2025, 11:55:24 AM »
Neither was student loan forgiveness, among many other things.
Neither was abolishing immigration law (done by BushII effectively, expanded greatly and made official policy with DACA under Obama/Biden).  

Neither was abolishing the Federal Death Penalty, done by Biden's commutations.  

Neither was abolishing a substantial portion of Federal Law, done by Biden's Pardons.  

Yeah, tell me again how "the rule of law" is important?  

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« Reply #43912 on: April 25, 2025, 11:58:07 AM »
Do you guys actually want the reason, or is it more fun to assume it's because Democrats love voter fraud?

PS It's not the latter.
LoL, it is most assuredly the latter.  All the dubious groups (felons, illegals, the deceased, etc) vote heavily Democratic.  

Want to buy booze, need ID.  

Want to cash a check, need ID.  

Want to got on a plane, need ID.  

You need ID all the time in this country but somehow requiring it to vote is a major infringement of civil rights?  

The real question is how your side makes these arguments with a straight face.  

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43913 on: April 25, 2025, 11:59:42 AM »
The Democrats are consistently against voter ID for some reason. 
Because it's a poll tax, which is explicitly prohibited. 


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« Reply #43914 on: April 25, 2025, 11:59:45 AM »
And that got blocked.
No it did not. Not all of it.
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« Reply #43915 on: April 25, 2025, 12:00:40 PM »
yes, I just don't think obtaining a credible ID is a huge hurdle, for ANYONE
especially anyone who truly is interested in voting
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« Reply #43916 on: April 25, 2025, 12:04:08 PM »
yes, I just don't think obtaining a credible ID is a huge hurdle, for ANYONE
especially anyone who truly is interested in voting

If it is, then they are too stupid to vote anyway.

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« Reply #43917 on: April 25, 2025, 12:04:31 PM »
My kids were pretty good on long drives.  I'd take the middle bench seat out of the Dodge Caravan and they could sit on the back seat or with my permission lie down in the middle.  My son often would sit up front with me.  That was a useful vehicle, 5 speed transmission, cassette deck, pretty much optioned out for a 1985 vehicle, slow doesn't describe it.

I'd get annoyed on entrance ramps if some car ahead of me didn't speed up because I had no power to merge.  Speed limits were 55 mph back then, that helped a bit, though traffic moved faster than that usually of course.

The other odd thing is mileage on the road was around 25 mpg, which was "OK" at the time, but hardly great.  I  finally bought an Olds minivan with that 3.8 L engine and an automatic, a larger heavier vehicle with a lot better acceleration and it got about 26 mpg highway.  It had one electric sliding door which was a thing at the time.
The technological improvements in IC Engines and drivetrains are pretty amazing.  

My basic take is:
There was a lot of improvement early (up to maybe the early 50's).  Then most of the improvement from about the 50's to the 70's was just bigger=more power.  Then the EPA regulations came along under Nixon.  That dramatically cut power and diminished the bigger-is-better theory that had pretty much guided at least American automotive engine production for decades.  

It took about 20-30 years for them to figure out how to get back to early-70's power with the new pollution controlled and smaller engines.  

Once they did, the improvements came fast.  

I have a 1998 Z28.  It has a ~300 HP 5.7L V8.  In 1998 that was a LOT of HP.  Today you can get a minivan with about that much power and today's minivans get it on MUCH less displacement and with MUCH better fuel economy.  

1985 was too much in the "malaise" era.  That 5sp Caravan was great for it's day but yeah but comparison today's vehicles have way more power and better fuel economy.  

 

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