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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43666 on: April 19, 2025, 12:35:10 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 19, 2025, 12:16:04 PM
You got a time machine, boss?  Get over your "whataboutism" and join the actual discussion.  FFS
It's part of the discussion. Right now, the administration is cleaning up the mess left by the prior one and some people in this country don't like it.
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« Reply #43667 on: April 19, 2025, 01:04:01 PM »
It's completely valid to bring up the failures of the prior administration in enforcing the laws, when discussing the task set before the current administration.

It's not a Democrat/Republican thing either, Obama was pretty strong on enforcing immigration laws.  For whatever reasons, the Biden administration was extremely weak.

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« Reply #43668 on: April 19, 2025, 01:14:02 PM »
I think it’s valid as a part of the conversation, not as a non-sequitur when discussing due process afforded by the laws of the U.S.  

Biden’s immigration policy (failed or not) does not give Trump carte blanche. 
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« Reply #43669 on: April 19, 2025, 01:21:39 PM »
This is what happens when the laws of this country are not followed and/or completely ignored.

Obama was called the "Deporter in Chief" but Orange Man Bad.
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« Reply #43670 on: April 19, 2025, 01:31:13 PM »
It’s so hard to have actual criticism of the current President when it’s just waved away with witticisms like TDS and Orange Man Bad. 

President Obama deported illegal immigrants following our immigration laws.  President Trump fabricated a reason to invoke the Alien Enemies Act and shipped people to a shady foreign prison. 
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« Reply #43671 on: April 19, 2025, 01:41:14 PM »
fabricated a reason???
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« Reply #43672 on: April 19, 2025, 01:46:06 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 19, 2025, 01:41:14 PM
fabricated a reason???
Millions of reasons.




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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43673 on: April 19, 2025, 01:52:57 PM »
There is a rather noisy "protest" happening just outside our condo right now.  My wife was annoyed that someone posted information about it on the building web site and said she was going to say something.  (I advised her not to.)  Anyway, they are making noise.  They don't like DJT apparently.

It's a nice quiet day otherwise.
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« Reply #43674 on: April 19, 2025, 01:55:20 PM »
There's one here, to the North, in Port Charlotte. It's a National thing, apparently.
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« Reply #43675 on: April 19, 2025, 01:59:45 PM »
Usually they march by and are soon gone, but this group apparently has stalled out just north of us, and cars are honking as they pass.  It's not a big deal to me, minorly annoying.

In other news, my wife was commenting about how many very young women of a certain race were walking by who are morbidly, incredibly obese, maybe with artifially enlarged hips and lips.  Being that fat at 30 is not good.  They can barely walk as it is.

Now I hear fire trucks, but they seem further north.

Let the hate flow through you, yesss.
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« Reply #43676 on: April 19, 2025, 02:05:52 PM »
An influx of illegal immigrants is plenty enough reason to enact stricter laws or to speed up deportation within the confines of our existing legal system.  The Alien Enemies Act states:


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That whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being males of the age of fourteen years and upwards, who shall be within the United States, and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies.


Even if you concede that an influx of immigrants are an incursion or invasion, it is not by a foreign nation or government. That’s the fabrication. The AEA grants the President extraordinary powers and has previously been invoked only three times during real wars. 


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« Reply #43677 on: April 19, 2025, 02:19:04 PM »
Quote from: slugsrbad on April 19, 2025, 02:05:52 PM
An influx of illegal immigrants is plenty enough reason to enact stricter laws or to speed up deportation within the confines of our existing legal system.  The Alien Enemies Act states:



Even if you concede that an influx of immigrants are an incursion or invasion, it is not by a foreign nation or government. That’s the fabrication. The AEA grants the President extraordinary powers and has previously been invoked only three times during real wars.



Many foreign governments emptied their prisons and sent invaders here.
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« Reply #43678 on: April 19, 2025, 02:20:28 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 19, 2025, 01:59:45 PM
Usually they march by and are soon gone, but this group apparently has stalled out just north of us, and cars are honking as they pass.  It's not a big deal to me, minorly annoying.

In other news, my wife was commenting about how many very young women of a certain race were walking by who are morbidly, incredibly obese, maybe with artifially enlarged hips and lips.  Being that fat at 30 is not good.  They can barely walk as it is.

Now I hear fire trucks, but they seem further north.

Let the hate flow through you, yesss.
Medicaid to the rescue.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43679 on: April 19, 2025, 02:23:44 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 19, 2025, 02:19:04 PM
Many foreign governments emptied their prisons and sent invaders here.
I heard that claimed.
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