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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42308 on: February 25, 2025, 06:39:02 PM »
At times, a ground control instruction can be misunderstood, the fly at you fast and furious.  You're supposed to repeat back of course, just as fast.  Maybe Major Toms was in that smaller plane.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42309 on: February 25, 2025, 06:40:43 PM »
We usually sit in a Delta lounge awaiting our flight, usually at a window, and I marvel at how apparently organized an enormous amount of things is happening, day in and day out, with virtualy zero MoE.  I'm frankly astonished humans can do such a thing at that pace.  If we didn't blow each other up all the time we'd all be better off.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42310 on: February 25, 2025, 07:51:04 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on February 25, 2025, 12:01:36 PM
For example the F-35 cost $2 trillion and was pretty much a failure- better off spending that money on AI, quantum computing, and space imo.
The F-35, like the Bradley, and plenty of other examples, is a very capable weapons system that fills a need the U.S. military has. And it cost way too much to develop it.
The failure was in the procurement process. The system itself is quite capable.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42311 on: February 25, 2025, 08:50:38 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on February 25, 2025, 07:51:04 PM
The F-35, like the Bradley, and plenty of other examples, is a very capable weapons system that fills a need the U.S. military has. And it cost way too much to develop it.
The failure was in the procurement process. The system itself is quite capable.
yeah, no. 

the F-35 program is more than a decade behind schedule and hundreds of billions of dollars over budget. But like most programs in the Pentagon much of that is by design. Gotta keep the guvment gravy fraud train going. 

And the truth of the matter that the F-35 has had laundry list of problems and setbacks from the start- and it is now basically obsolete. 
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« Reply #42312 on: February 26, 2025, 08:00:52 AM »
Quote from: ELA on February 25, 2025, 06:18:00 PM

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1894450389392466188
That happened to us at RSW. We're going down, just feet from the ground, and then all of a sudden, we're going up. Very surreal and uneasy feeling.

It was in 2023.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42313 on: February 26, 2025, 08:03:41 AM »
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« Reply #42314 on: February 26, 2025, 08:07:18 AM »
The truth is that this ATC stuff has been going on for a long time - only now you're going to hear more about it.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42315 on: February 26, 2025, 08:18:17 AM »
I bet there is a database showing all the close calls and what we refer to as "near miss" incidents.  I wonder if you looked them up if they would show an increase of near-misses over the last 2-3 months.  The plane near misses have been getting over-sized coverage since the DC crash with the military copter and a passenger jet, but for all we know these things happen on a regular basis, the media just doesn't report them ad nauseum.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42316 on: February 26, 2025, 08:20:04 AM »
This one was pretty major and rare, the small jet pilots apparently didn't understand instructions for hold short of 31 Center.  They also didn't seem clear where they were in the airport, they may have not thought 31C was the next runway they encountered.  The SWA pilot of course did the proper thing and ATC handled it well I think.

I don't think this was ATC's fault in any way, nor that of Ground.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42317 on: February 26, 2025, 08:22:41 AM »
More ATC's are needed, for sure.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42318 on: February 26, 2025, 08:29:38 AM »
That probably is true, but in this case, I don't think it was a factor at all.

I never saw a "post mortem" by the NTSB on the helo collision in DC.  I still have a serious question about the media reports of the helo flight path.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42319 on: February 26, 2025, 08:51:03 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 26, 2025, 08:29:38 AM
That probably is true, but in this case, I don't think it was a factor at all.

I never saw a "post mortem" by the NTSB on the helo collision in DC.  I still have a serious question about the media reports of the helo flight path.
I would think it would take more than a month or two to wrap up that investigation.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42320 on: February 26, 2025, 09:07:57 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 26, 2025, 08:07:18 AM
The truth is that this ATC stuff has been going on for a long time - only now you're going to hear more about it.
this is the truth- but of course morons repeat the "bAd OrUnGe MaN fIrE eVuRyOnE iT hIs FaUlT...DeRp..mE...ReTaRd...DeRp!". gotta fit the narrative and all.

FAA has 45,000 employees. The new administration fired under 400 employees- all of which were probationary (meaning they've been there less than a year) and none were air traffic controllers.

you have a couple things going on- FAA is running outdated and obsolete technology- it is in desperate need of modernization- that is the major problem #1. problem #2- insane DEI policies- which no one wants to admit....that Delta crash in Canada (hilarious how they were trying to blame that one FAA)....the pilot was a woman who had just gotten her license to fly that class of jet couple months prior- and she was working for a Delta subsidiary called Endeveaor Air which apparently is 100% DEI staffed and only hires women and people of color! Yeah so there's a reason why it's really hard to become a pilot and why companies like Delta, United, and every other major airline in US history used to try to recruit and hire only highly trained former military pilots....apparently they'll hire anyone these days.

Fly DEI....you just might DIE.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42321 on: February 26, 2025, 09:11:03 AM »
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