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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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MikeDeTiger

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42000 on: February 19, 2025, 09:25:04 AM »
My company has a software center or something like that where you are given a list of programs you can install for free.  Some of them are free, and some require an extra license (they're not free, they just have a blanket license).  I have one installed (microsoft product) that I have to continually answer that I legitmately need 3-4 times a year. 

Is this on your own computer, or a company one?  

I can't do anything, free or not, and I can't answer anything about legitimately needing it.  Any system modifications, including installing up updating software, require administrator access.  Which is IT, and not me.  

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« Reply #42001 on: February 19, 2025, 09:34:38 AM »
Is this on your own computer, or a company one? 

I can't do anything, free or not, and I can't answer anything about legitimately needing it.  Any system modifications, including installing up updating software, require administrator access.  Which is IT, and not me. 
Company laptop that mostly lives in my home. 

You can’t log into Gmail? That’s where we might get. 

I can’t install anything. And updates run through IT. I think I had to get some special exemption that might not be completely above board to be able to update a piece of software that downloads new data every month.

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« Reply #42002 on: February 19, 2025, 09:36:39 AM »
That feels like a stretch for taxpayer-funded silliness. Corporations all over are very adamant you not install stuff.

Shoot, my company is on the verge of outlawing the Google suite on our work equipment.

Maybe so, but don't overlook the part where I said I can't update anything.  We have ~700 faculty and I don't know how many staff, and none of us can update a program that's already installed which either requires updating, or else constantly prompts for updates and annoys the hell out of us.  Surely you can imagine how much time that wastes, and how many work requests IT gets on account of it, and how there's literally no downside to allowing people to update programs even if you don't let them install them.  Every time I go out on campus to meet with faculty or other staff, I see IT guys from my floor around, doing who knows what.  Undoubtedly they have a lot of legit IT things to do.  Judging by my office, they're also doing a lot of BS, unnecessary program updates that have no risk and which could be done by a 5-yr old.  

So after doing nothing yesterday afternoon, because I absolutely need Adobe to do what needs to be done, here I am this morning, again, still waiting for IT to come pay a visit for something I could've done in less than a minute.  

My salary and every one else's here is taxpayer funded.  Does it sound like a great use of my time/their money?  Or the extra IT people required

I know for a fact that IT can set certain programs from a list they approve to be user-installed while still locking out everything else.  They don't want to....fair enough.  Whatever.  But not allowing employees to update programs they've already installed without going through the red-tape that is getting an IT work-order is time-wasting insanity.  

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« Reply #42003 on: February 19, 2025, 09:40:35 AM »
I find that surprising that you took it.  Were you heavier at one point?  Because I thought I saw that you were 5-10 and 180ish.  Even if you got up to 200-220 I wouldn't think you'd be a candidate for that. 


I hit 235 shortly after the pandemic, a few years ago.  That's 75 lbs over my ideal weight. It was a result of a few things including the discovery that my thyroid was just about useless, generating no metabolism at all (hypothyroidism).  So even the "at rest" calories you're supposed to burn, weren't burning.  Upon reflection I think I've had that condition for at least 10 or 12 years.  I wrote it off as just getting old for a while, then I asked my GP what he thought, if it could be something metabolic, and he told me I was just getting old as well.

Finally a couple of years ago I decided I just didn't feel right, the only way I could even maintain weight was by extreme calorie deficits and carb-depleting, which just isn't right.  I forced my GP to refer me to an endocrinologist who did a panel of blood work and figured out my issue pretty quickly.  I also talked to my family about it and it turns out both my mom and sister have battled it for years. 

So anyway, I got the metabolism started again but really struggled with exercise at my very high weight.  I asked the endocrinologist if there was something to be done, and he suggested the GLP-1.  I lost about 45 lbs on it, and then was able to exercise a lot more effectively so I ended the Wegovy.  I've still got another 15-20 lbs I'd like to lose but I'm doing it the old fashioned way.

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« Reply #42004 on: February 19, 2025, 09:40:48 AM »
Maybe so, but don't overlook the part where I said I can't update anything.  We have ~700 faculty and I don't know how many staff, and none of us can update a program that's already installed which either requires updating, or else constantly prompts for updates and annoys the hell out of us.  Surely you can imagine how much time that wastes, and how many work requests IT gets on account of it, and how there's literally no downside to allowing people to update programs even if you don't let them install them.  Every time I go out on campus to meet with faculty or other staff, I see IT guys from my floor around, doing who knows what.  Undoubtedly they have a lot of legit IT things to do.  Judging by my office, they're also doing a lot of BS, unnecessary program updates that have no risk and which could be done by a 5-yr old. 

So after doing nothing yesterday afternoon, because I absolutely need Adobe to do what needs to be done, here I am this morning, again, still waiting for IT to come pay a visit for something I could've done in less than a minute. 

My salary and every one else's here is taxpayer funded.  Does it sound like a great use of my time/their money?  Or the extra IT people required

I know for a fact that IT can set certain programs from a list they approve to be user-installed while still locking out everything else.  They don't want to....fair enough.  Whatever.  But not allowing employees to update programs they've already installed without going through the red-tape that is getting an IT work-order is time-wasting insanity. 
That sounds like IT needs to have a better system for automatic updates.


What is this program that you can’t update that is completely grounding you?

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« Reply #42005 on: February 19, 2025, 09:44:26 AM »
Is this on your own computer, or a company one? 

I can't do anything, free or not, and I can't answer anything about legitimately needing it.  Any system modifications, including installing up updating software, require administrator access.  Which is IT, and not me. 
Company owned laptop.  ~30K-40K employees at my company, easily 20K have their own laptop (the rest share workstations).  

You can't install anything that hasn't been approved.  Kinda like the iPhone.  Can't download anything to a flash drive either, or send attachment in email other than the official company.  Can't use google docs, but can use gmail.  

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« Reply #42006 on: February 19, 2025, 09:47:32 AM »
Company owned laptop.  ~30K-40K employees at my company, easily 20K have their own laptop (the rest share workstations). 

You can't install anything that hasn't been approved.  Kinda like the iPhone.  Can't download anything to a flash drive either, or send attachment in email other than the official company.  Can't use google docs, but can use gmail. 
Yeah that's pretty standard security for large corporate IT infrastructure.

We have a handful of approved optional programs that can be added through the self-serve Software Center-- applications that aren't included in the corporate image because not everyone needs them (and some require specific expensive licenses and manager approval)-- but for the most part all IT additions and updates are pushed en masse across the corporate network.  Individual users have no admin rights.

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« Reply #42007 on: February 19, 2025, 09:55:25 AM »
That sounds like IT needs to have a better system for automatic updates.


What is this program that you can’t update that is completely grounding you?

At the moment, an update is not holding me up.  It's an install for Adobe.  Which they should've installed before issuing my laptop.  Everyone is supposed to have it, as far as I know.  

The most frequent update that annoys me is Java updates, but there's other software here and there.  Fortunately, a lot of what we do is cloud-based so some of the main things we use won't require updates.  

I had IT put Python and some accompanying IDE's on my laptop for some tasks I get every now and then, and oddly enough, while I have to have IT update them through the interface, I figured out I can update them myself through shell commands.  I don't understand enough about that world to know why that is.   

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« Reply #42008 on: February 19, 2025, 09:55:57 AM »
my boss thinks stayin in crappy hotels might cause me to burn out and retire
I told him the IT department with all it's safeguards and other BS regarding safety on my cellphone and company laptop will be the issue
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« Reply #42009 on: February 19, 2025, 10:09:49 AM »
You can't install anything that hasn't been approved.  Kinda like the iPhone.  Can't download anything to a flash drive either, or send attachment in email other than the official company.  Can't use google docs, but can use gmail. 

Right.  That, I've seen, and that, I understand.

We can't install anything, because there is no approved list.  Ability to install or update is completely locked down.  

Yay, gub'ment.  

Since working here I've noticed 100 ways a public institution functions so much differently than the private world.  At least in part, it's because the private world has to become good at doing things, or the company doesn't survive.  A government institution doesn't have that problem.  No matter how slow, inefficient, or wasteful we are, we'll just keep plugging along, because we don't depend on being good at what we do to survive.  

It's not just the wider operation of the place, it's an attitude that filters to employees as well.  People put in actual work here, and as far as I can tell are good at their jobs.  But we ain't hustling like other jobs I've had.  In the corporate world, higher ups need people performing jobs efficiently to generate revenue.  In my world, higher ups need us complying with state and federal regulations, because that's what generates our revenue.  

Totally different mindset.  

It makes the most sense to me for a company to approve a list of software, and let their employees install it if necessary, like yours.  But if you have a state-controlled budget that must be spent, and maybe you need to hire some more people to fulfill that requirement (maybe IT people), maybe you need more justification for having them here.  You can create more work for them by allowing the other employees to do less.  I don't know that that's what it is.  But it wouldn't surprise me.  

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« Reply #42010 on: February 19, 2025, 11:25:14 AM »
Just got my homeowner's insurance bill. Dropped by $1500. Pretty happy about that.
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« Reply #42011 on: February 19, 2025, 11:37:29 AM »
that was one of the greatest speeches by a US politician ever. it was truly glorious.

but what JD Vance is leaving out- is that it is the United States of America and the Biden administration which has pushed things like internet censorship, deindustrialization, energy reliance on US, and ever greater dependence on US military in Europe. All of the worst policies in Europe were pushed on them by their masters in Washington over the past several decades. And the corrupt useless spineless pushovers that they are just went right along with it.
But he did mention that in his speech. Not sure if you heard the entire speech or not, but he did say that the United States was not without guilt in this area under the previous administration. 

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« Reply #42012 on: February 19, 2025, 11:55:55 AM »
Wait, don’t we want them to be energy reliant on us?

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« Reply #42013 on: February 19, 2025, 11:58:44 AM »
Just got my homeowner's insurance bill. Dropped by $1500. Pretty happy about that.
I am somewhat interested in the mechanics that led to that. I read a bit about it, but wasn’t sure what helped there (it seems like some of it involved limit the roof replacement stuff and maybe shifting more costs to part-time residence, but it wasn’t totally clear)

 

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