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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41118 on: December 31, 2024, 07:41:55 AM »
Carter led in the polls until the last couple of weeks in the cycle.  

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« Reply #41119 on: December 31, 2024, 08:03:20 AM »
He should have started a 20 year war.
He left that job to another terrible president - arguably the worst of my lifetime.
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« Reply #41120 on: December 31, 2024, 08:09:43 AM »
If CFB were an example of "unfettered capitalism", we'd shortly be down to an oligrachy of teams, most would be out of business.

Of course, our economic system in the US and most of Europe is basically regulated capitalism, or free market economies, largely speaking.  Even Sweden dallied with socialism in the 1990s and switched back.

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« Reply #41121 on: December 31, 2024, 08:22:44 AM »
Here are some laws going into effect on Jan. 1 around the country.

California gun safety regulations going into effect Jan. 1
In September, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a series of laws aimed at strengthening gun safety regulations. Those include requiring schools to implement safety programs and plans, and establishing an Office of Gun Violence Prevention, which have deadlines in the coming years.

Some of those laws go into effect on Jan. 1 including:

AB 1483 strengthens a rule against applying for more than one handgun in a 30-day period. The bill removes an exemption for a private party transactions. However, the policy has been caught in court battles and the California Department of Justice does will not enforce it while a court injunction is in place, the California DOJ told USA TODAY on Dec. 27.
AB 1598 requires firearm dealers to provide consumers with a pamphlet covering the reasons for and risks of firearm ownership, "including the increased risk of death to someone in the household by suicide, homicide, or unintentional injury."
AB 2917 guides courts to expand considerations for a gun violence restraining order to include threats of violence, specifically hate-based threats.
"California won’t wait until the next school shooting or mass shooting to act," Gov. Gavin Newsom said in a news release. "In the absence of congressional action, our state is once again leading the way by strengthening our nation-leading gun laws."


Colorado requires secure storage in a vehicle, training for concealed carry
As of Jan. 1, any handgun stored inside an unoccupied vehicle in Colorado must be in a locked, hard-sided container that is out of plain view, and the vehicle also must be locked, with some exceptions.

Later in 2025, Coloradans who want to apply for a concealed carry permit will be required to complete an eight-hour training class, which includes a written exam and a live-fire exercise. The law, which goes into effect July 1, also prohibits anyone who was convicted of certain misdemeanor offenses from obtaining a concealed carry permit, if those offenses happened within five years of the application.

New Hampshire's new year laws bolster gun rights
The only gun-related bills signed into law in 2024 in New Hampshire expanded gun rights. Going into effect on Jan, 1. HB 1186 strengthens privacy protections around gun laws by prohibiting the use of specific merchant category codes, and HB 1336 bars employers from forbidding employees from storing guns in locked vehicles. SB 322, which already went into effect in July, protects law enforcement officers who issue gun licenses “in good faith.”

After a security guard was shot and killed while in the line of duty at the New Hampshire Hospital in 2023, some lawmakers pushed for new gun regulations. One, called Bradley’s Law, was a bipartisan sponsored bill to require serious mental health information to be reported to the federal background check system for firearm purchases. But while the bill passed the House, it failed in the Senate.

Kentucky joins more than a dozen states enacting NRA-backed legislation
The NRA touted that several states have passed laws to prohibit assigning a code for gun retailers, known as a "merchant category code." The MCCs can be used by financial institutions to see what kinds of purchases are made, though it does not show the specific item purchased.

Kentucky is one of 10 states that passed an MCC ban in 2024, according to the NRA, and at least five other states have previously passed those laws while a handful of other states, including California, have passed legislation requiring it.

Kentucky's ban goes into effect Jan. 1, 2025.

Minnesota, New York, Delaware also have new gun laws coming into effect in the New Year
Minnesota passed a binary trigger ban, which goes into effect on Jan. 1. A binary trigger allows a gun to be fired once when the trigger is pulled, then again when the trigger is released.

Delaware will include university campuses in the Safe School Zone, making it a felony offense to possess a firearm on campus, as of Jan. 1.

New York will require gun dealers to post signs warning consumers of the risk of gun ownership starting Jan. 7. In the new year, New York is also implementing a statewide registry of extreme risk protection orders, which bars someone from owning a gun temporarily if they are deemed at risk to themselves or others.
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« Reply #41122 on: December 31, 2024, 08:37:04 AM »
I remember his reign well.

Gas prices were high and had gas rationing for the first time since WWII.
I was too young to remember Carter. 
What specifically did he do that caused all the issues?  High interest rates, gas shortages, the whole Iran, etc. 

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« Reply #41123 on: December 31, 2024, 08:41:40 AM »
Inflation was huge

the economy was bad
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41124 on: December 31, 2024, 08:44:54 AM »
Inflation spiked into Reagan's term and we had a "double dip" recession and stagflation that was seriously bad.

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« Reply #41125 on: December 31, 2024, 08:52:33 AM »
I was too young to remember Carter.
What specifically did he do that caused all the issues?  High interest rates, gas shortages, the whole Iran, etc.
Did or didn't do?

I heard he liked Disco.
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« Reply #41126 on: December 31, 2024, 08:55:27 AM »
I blame his brother Billy and his crap beer
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« Reply #41127 on: December 31, 2024, 08:57:31 AM »
Panama Canal.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41128 on: December 31, 2024, 09:03:17 AM »
I'm of the opinion that any President is faulted or credited for stuff that was largely out of his control.  The Fed for example is very influential, and foreign events can crop up that can mangle our economy.  Carter faced the "Iran hostage crisis" and approved an attempted military rescue mission that failed badly.  The inflation was something that had been brewing since 1974 and the oil embargo that shot gas prices higher and led to rationing.  Carter's approach was to encourage us to "conserve" by seeing thermostats lower in winter and wear a sweater.  He had PV cells added to the WH roof.  This didn't sit too well with a lot of "us".

It's worth noting that gas prices today are below the historical average adjusted for inflation.  I just filled up for $2.60 per.



U.S. Inflation Rate 1960-2024 | MacroTrends

The Iranian Hostage Crisis - Short History - Department History - Office of the Historian


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« Reply #41129 on: December 31, 2024, 09:06:16 AM »
Average price around here is about $3.10.
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« Reply #41130 on: December 31, 2024, 09:18:35 AM »
$2.45
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« Reply #41131 on: December 31, 2024, 09:33:38 AM »
Carter boasts the all time high Misery Index. (Inflation + unemployment rate)
Incredible look back data

1980
30 yr fixed rate at 13.74%, this would peak in 81 in high teens.  My parents had a 12% on our 1960s era ranch home.

A 30 year Treasury yield was about 11-13% during 1980.

I think the highest mortgage I've ever had is 6%, currently have a 3.25%.





 

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