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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40950 on: December 26, 2024, 05:41:49 PM »
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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« Reply #40951 on: December 26, 2024, 05:51:23 PM »
Social Security
Mortgage Tax Deduction
Capital Gains
Cost of housing 3x compared to income growth
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Retort:  this has always been the case
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Then the boomers are the best at exacerbating the problem
Valuing money over EVERYTHING else and everyone else
CEOs making record amounts x vs avg workers
Extra money not going into the company, but into pockets at the top
Unions being largely broken up
Valuing high inflation over high unemployment - shitty, low-paying jobs okay
Many large companies capping hours to avoid required benefits
Suppressing minimum wage for decades, then bitching about it jumping suddenly as unfair/damaging
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Gentlemen, the poor and the young have no voice when it comes to both laws and the decisions made by heads of corporations.  The financially successful people are incentivized to keep the status quo and/or make things better for themselves.  As it's not a zero-sum game, every benefit for these older decision-makers comes at the cost of younger victims.  Yes, victims.  The fact is that many young people can barely afford a shitty apartment, while their grandfather could buy a house and provide for his family. 
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Its greed.  That's all it is.  The GREEDY Generation, if you wish.  There is no amount of sand to stick your head in, no amount of anecdotes or playing dumb or whatever the fuck you want to do to explain it away as anything but greedy and unethical.
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Honestly, the least-damning thing you could compare it to is that the boomer generation is Barry Bonds.  Every generation acts this way?  Great.  Well, the Boomers happen to be the best at doing it.  They've created the most radical outcomes from their efforts.  
Pretend I'm wrong and absurd and crazy.  And keep pretending that their greed has any limits.
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I give you guys enough credit to say you're knowingly bullshitting in your responses, and just can't come to terms with admitting what's plainly true.  You're not stupid.  You're just not honest with yourselves or us, either.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40952 on: December 26, 2024, 05:58:06 PM »
Social Security
Mortgage Tax Deduction
Capital Gains
Cost of housing 3x compared to income growth
.
Retort:  this has always been the case
.
Then the boomers are the best at exacerbating the problem
Valuing money over EVERYTHING else and everyone else
CEOs making record amounts x vs avg workers
Extra money not going into the company, but into pockets at the top
Unions being largely broken up
Valuing high inflation over high unemployment - shitty, low-paying jobs okay
Many large companies capping hours to avoid required benefits
Suppressing minimum wage for decades, then bitching about it jumping suddenly as unfair/damaging
.
Gentlemen, the poor and the young have no voice when it comes to both laws and the decisions made by heads of corporations.  The financially successful people are incentivized to keep the status quo and/or make things better for themselves.  As it's not a zero-sum game, every benefit for these older decision-makers comes at the cost of younger victims.  Yes, victims.  The fact is that many young people can barely afford a shitty apartment, while their grandfather could buy a house and provide for his family.
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Its greed.  That's all it is.  The GREEDY Generation, if you wish.  There is no amount of sand to stick your head in, no amount of anecdotes or playing dumb or whatever the fuck you want to do to explain it away as anything but greedy and unethical.
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Honestly, the least-damning thing you could compare it to is that the boomer generation is Barry Bonds.  Every generation acts this way?  Great.  Well, the Boomers happen to be the best at doing it.  They've created the most radical outcomes from their efforts. 
Pretend I'm wrong and absurd and crazy.  And keep pretending that their greed has any limits.
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I give you guys enough credit to say you're knowingly bullshitting in your responses, and just can't come to terms with admitting what's plainly true.  You're not stupid.  You're just not honest with yourselves or us, either.
And I was beginning to think you were intelligent.  Wow.  Talk about anecdotal BS.  I actually pity you.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40953 on: December 26, 2024, 06:03:01 PM »
You believe in an invisible man in the sky.  Save your pity and spread some of your BS.
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« Reply #40954 on: December 26, 2024, 06:05:47 PM »
You believe in an invisible man in the sky.  Save your pity and spread some of your BS.
Missed again.   You just keep taking your pent up frustration on a generation.   😂😂😂
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« Reply #40955 on: December 26, 2024, 08:38:56 PM »
My frustration lies with those here who scoff when labeled as having wealth.  With the last page of this thread, I now know Badge can't handle it being suggested that others' struggles and obstacles might just be more than his was and for many, they're basically insurmountable.  They're just lazy and wasting money on Starbucks.  

It's asinine.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40956 on: December 26, 2024, 08:43:21 PM »
Whining.  

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« Reply #40957 on: December 26, 2024, 08:48:15 PM »
Don't worry, UGA's run will end and you'll be back to whining plenty.  :88:
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« Reply #40958 on: December 26, 2024, 09:05:12 PM »
One of the other dads on my sons travel baseball team died of a heart attack on Christmas Eve.  He was older than me, but only 50.  Was not overweight anymore than any of us are.  Didnt drink more or eat worse than any of us.  In a lot of fields you want to be "an electricians electrician" or "a plumbers plumber".  I hate other attorneys, but I was introduced to him by a mutual friend who said "we had the same dry sense of humor".  We did.  Only later did we find out we were both attorneys.  He was vastly more successful than me, but the fact that neither of us brought up that we were attorneys, made us a well made pair.  We only spent one baseball season, but his death sucks both as a new friend, and recognizing that Im reaching the age where this shit just happens

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« Reply #40959 on: December 26, 2024, 09:12:29 PM »
I'm sorry, that's awful.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40960 on: December 26, 2024, 10:08:43 PM »
You can still buy it. Just have to ask for it at the pharmacy behind the counter, and show ID. But the real Sudafed (pseudoephedrine) is still available without a prescription.

Although the "trucker pills" that we used in college to stay awake, which is just straight ephedrine, is illegal now... As far as I know.
I have no idea what the medicine was. I just know that it made you feel very light headed. I thought it was totally banned ?  Maybe it was ephedrine. What was the name of the medicine itself?  Next time I’m in the pharmacy I’ll asking about the real Sudafed. 

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« Reply #40961 on: December 27, 2024, 06:51:11 AM »
One of the other dads on my sons travel baseball team died of a heart attack on Christmas Eve.  He was older than me, but only 50.  Was not overweight anymore than any of us are.  Didnt drink more or eat worse than any of us.  In a lot of fields you want to be "an electricians electrician" or "a plumbers plumber".  I hate other attorneys, but I was introduced to him by a mutual friend who said "we had the same dry sense of humor".  We did.  Only later did we find out we were both attorneys.  He was vastly more successful than me, but the fact that neither of us brought up that we were attorneys, made us a well made pair.  We only spent one baseball season, but his death sucks both as a new friend, and recognizing that Im reaching the age where this shit just happens
That sucks. Very sorry to hear that.

Honestly, I recommend anyone over 40 get a coronary artery score test. It's $100 out of pocket - insurance doesn't cover it. But it's how I found out that I was a ticking time bomb.
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« Reply #40962 on: December 27, 2024, 07:07:45 AM »
I have no idea what the medicine was. I just know that it made you feel very light headed. I thought it was totally banned ?  Maybe it was ephedrine. What was the name of the medicine itself?  Next time I’m in the pharmacy I’ll asking about the real Sudafed.
How's your heart and blood pressure? That stuff isn't good for those things.
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« Reply #40963 on: December 27, 2024, 07:13:10 AM »
My frustration lies with those here who scoff when labeled as having wealth.  With the last page of this thread, I now know Badge can't handle it being suggested that others' struggles and obstacles might just be more than his was and for many, they're basically insurmountable.  They're just lazy and wasting money on Starbucks. 

It's asinine. 

Discipline matters.
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