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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Mdot21

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40880 on: December 19, 2024, 12:19:52 PM »
Ukraine is a sock puppet of the US empire. has been since about 2014 when the US state department & CIA successfully overthrew it's democratically elected gov't. It's effectively a colony that is wholly dependent on the United States of America for survival. Zelenksy is a puppet of the current foreign policy establishment in DC. this war will end when DC loses interest in it's continuation and decides to cut their losses.

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« Reply #40881 on: December 19, 2024, 12:33:11 PM »
DC is a rats nest.

OMNI-BUSTED: RFK LAND DEAL PUSHES COMMANDERS’ RETURN TO D.C.

Buried in Congress’s 1,547-page spending bill is a provision transferring the RFK Stadium site to D.C., setting the stage for a new Commanders stadium.

The NFL, raking in over $20 billion annually, doesn’t need public subsidies, yet Congress is giving them a prime site for billionaire owners to cash in—without asking taxpayers.

Lawmakers are calling it “economic development,” but let’s be honest: it’s a taxpayer-funded playground for NFL elites, lobbyists, and VIPs, while schools, healthcare, and infrastructure are left on the bench.

Stuffed into a must-pass bill, there’s little time for oversight—or for taxpayers to question why their money is being leveraged for luxury suites and skyboxes.

Source: AP News







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« Reply #40882 on: December 19, 2024, 12:40:53 PM »
NCAA takes it on the chin in court....AGAIN. there isn't a case these MF's don't lose it seems like...lol.

The Vandy QB got granted a temporary injunction in a court which says his years spent at JUCO don't affect his NCAA eligibility. He's I think 26 and getting another year. Great. As if the recruiting/portal shit wasn't fucked up enough.


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« Reply #40883 on: December 19, 2024, 12:45:23 PM »
I don't agree that it's up to the UN, for the precise reason that the UN is both spineless and toothless.

Then I need someone smarter than me to explain why it exists.
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« Reply #40884 on: December 19, 2024, 12:47:23 PM »
To paraphrase Raylen Givens, if one asshole criminal is beating on another asshole criminal, how is that my problem? 
Exactly.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40886 on: December 19, 2024, 04:19:48 PM »
NCAA takes it on the chin in court....AGAIN. there isn't a case these MF's don't lose it seems like...lol.

The Vandy QB got granted a temporary injunction in a court which says his years spent at JUCO don't affect his NCAA eligibility. He's I think 26 and getting another year. Great. As if the recruiting/portal shit wasn't fucked up enough.
some of us have discussed this.......

why can the NCAA decide anything that can regulate an athlete's opportunity to cash in on NIL????
Why do they have to be a student?
Why should they have to maintain a grade point average?
why shouldn't they be able to be a member of the team at any age or any number of seasons?
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40887 on: December 19, 2024, 04:24:37 PM »

why can the NCAA decide anything that can regulate an athlete's opportunity to cash in on NIL????
Why do they have to be a student?
Why should they have to maintain a grade point average?
why shouldn't they be able to be a member of the team at any age or any number of seasons?

I suspect, much like the UN, they only have whatever power and pull the big-boy members give them.  

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« Reply #40888 on: December 19, 2024, 04:27:32 PM »
when the big boy members go up against the courts and judges, they lose

kids are free to make money

Member institutions are not allowed to infringe on those rights
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« Reply #40889 on: December 19, 2024, 04:47:31 PM »
some of us have discussed this.......

why can the NCAA decide anything that can regulate an athlete's opportunity to cash in on NIL????
Why do they have to be a student?
Why should they have to maintain a grade point average?
why shouldn't they be able to be a member of the team at any age or any number of seasons?
Neither the NCAA nor the universities can control anything with respect to NIL.  That power resides within the state statutes.  Any attempt to disregard or circumvent those statutes, is illegal.

But legal pay-for-play is something else entirely.  That will be controlled by the NCAA or whatever replaces it, or the conferences.  It's up to the schools to decide.  Any power the NCAA or conference has, is solely a result of being granted that power by the member institutions.  If the member institutions desire to revoke that power, they are free to do so, within the bounds of whatever rules/bylaws they signed off on, when they became members of the organization.

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« Reply #40890 on: December 19, 2024, 05:04:43 PM »
Neither the NCAA nor the universities can control anything with respect to NIL.  That power resides within the state statutes.  Any attempt to disregard or circumvent those statutes, is illegal.

But legal pay-for-play is something else entirely.  That will be controlled by the NCAA or whatever replaces it, or the conferences.  It's up to the schools to decide.  Any power the NCAA or conference has, is solely a result of being granted that power by the member institutions.  If the member institutions desire to revoke that power, they are free to do so, within the bounds of whatever rules/bylaws they signed off on, when they became members of the organization.
I think once the revenue share starts that the P4 will have to eventually breakaway and form their own thing, have a commissioner who oversees the entire league, create a players union and CBA agreement and make the players sign contracts so yeah sure they can hit the portal and leave but not if they are under contract. Contract should be min 2 year deals imo.

As far as NIL stuff goes, not sure you can ever regulate that. If I own a car dealership and I want to give 5* Johnny Football QB a fat check and a free car for advertising my place....on the condition he signs with my favorite school....well then there isn't fuck-all anyone can do about that.

NCAA tried cracking down on Tennessee and Nico and got their shit pushed in in court like they always do and have basically just said fuck it, it's the wild wild west and closed their entire NIL policing division.

Speaking of NIL...this kid is getting paid in Bitcoin



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« Reply #40891 on: December 19, 2024, 05:08:16 PM »
so, the NCAA and SEC decide they are going to pay the QB $100,000/season to play for conference teams

then, on the side, the player can also take $1 million for a season for NIL

perfect
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40892 on: December 19, 2024, 05:18:55 PM »
Neither the NCAA nor the universities can control anything with respect to NIL.  That power resides within the state statutes.  Any attempt to disregard or circumvent those statutes, is illegal.

But legal pay-for-play is something else entirely.  That will be controlled by the NCAA or whatever replaces it, or the conferences.  It's up to the schools to decide.  Any power the NCAA or conference has, is solely a result of being granted that power by the member institutions.  If the member institutions desire to revoke that power, they are free to do so, within the bounds of whatever rules/bylaws they signed off on, when they became members of the organization.
That's not true as I understand it. I believe the recent lawsuit that invokes the revenue sharing that @Mdot21 is referring to was NOT a decision by the NCAA, conferences, or member institutions. It was a court settlement that says they have to share out revenue.

While agreeing to settle and negotiating the terms of the settlement may be an NCAA "decision", I think we all know they wouldn't have decided to share a penny if they didn't think they were going to lose the lawsuits that triggered the settlement. 

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« Reply #40893 on: December 19, 2024, 05:25:37 PM »
That's not true as I understand it. I believe the recent lawsuit that invokes the revenue sharing that @Mdot21 is referring to was NOT a decision by the NCAA, conferences, or member institutions. It was a court settlement that says they have to share out revenue.

While agreeing to settle and negotiating the terms of the settlement may be an NCAA "decision", I think we all know they wouldn't have decided to share a penny if they didn't think they were going to lose the lawsuits that triggered the settlement.
yep. they knew full well they were going to lose in court. it's actually pretty impressive just how much they have gotten their clocks absolutely cleaned in court. they lose like every court case they have to fight. 

 

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