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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40166 on: November 22, 2024, 11:42:55 AM »
my not be required by law, but it would be a good practice
I have zero intentions of carrying around any proof of citizenship on a daily basis, zero.  

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« Reply #40167 on: November 22, 2024, 11:45:51 AM »
Do you remember the initial outrage from this fake? Do you remember the denial in the media as the hoax became unraveled?

Had this occurred after the BLM riots, Chicago would have burned.

Carry on.
That imaginary situation may well be true (or false, as it is imaginary). But that's a standard of vibes and a social problem, not one of law.  

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« Reply #40168 on: November 22, 2024, 11:46:54 AM »
my not be required by law, but it would be a good practice
Why?

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« Reply #40169 on: November 22, 2024, 11:49:31 AM »
I have zero intentions of carrying around any proof of citizenship on a daily basis, zero. 
I think you'll be OK.
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« Reply #40170 on: November 22, 2024, 12:11:19 PM »
I have zero intentions of carrying around any proof of citizenship on a daily basis, zero. 
I think a valid Driver's license would work in most cases
and I don't think you need to worry about Trump's storm troopers targeting you. 
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« Reply #40171 on: November 22, 2024, 12:14:47 PM »
Why?
why not?
if you're standing out in front of the Home Depot in the morning or fit into a certain profile.......... better to be safe than sorry
I carry a valid ID always
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40172 on: November 22, 2024, 12:24:04 PM »
Some noncitizens can get DLs in Georgia.  

And then in other states, ...

Yes. As of January 1, 2015, undocumented immigrants in California can obtain a special “AB 60 license” without a social security number.1 This was the result of California Assembly Bill 60, the “Safe and Responsible Driver Act.”
An AB60 license looks the same as a regular driver’s license (DL), but is marked “Federal Limits Apply” in the upper right-hand corner.
To date, the California DMV has issued more than 1,000,000 AB60 licenses to undocumented aliens.2



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« Reply #40173 on: November 22, 2024, 12:24:42 PM »
Several pages back I noted that American citizens have already been deported by ICE. So my question is--along the lines of the death penalty--how many citizens deported is acceptable? How many documented immigrants is acceptable? 

In the case of the death penalty, the current thinking is approximately 4% of death row convicts are innocent, so roughly one in twenty. The majority of Americans in 27 states appear to believe that is an acceptable error rate for killing people, as long as we can execute the other 19 within about 20 years or so of the crimes that they commit.

So what is the acceptable error rate for deportating citizens and people here with up to date documentation? 


Some other problematic questions: is deportation the correct remedy for someone whose visa is expired? How expired? What if it's bureaucratic problems that caused the delay? How do we appropriately treat asylum seekers, while weeding out the fakers? What about american citizens who have a family member here who is undocumented? Do we deport someone who is married to an American citizen? What about someone whose child is an American citizen? What about the "dreamers?" Children (or now young adults) who have spent most of their lives here and have no support in the country their parents brought them here from--may not even speak that country's language?

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« Reply #40174 on: November 22, 2024, 12:25:58 PM »
Why?
I carry one everywhere because it helps to easily ID me if I drop dead.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40175 on: November 22, 2024, 12:28:48 PM »
I don't expect any real mass deportations to occur.  By mass, I mean ten million or so.  Won't happen.

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« Reply #40176 on: November 22, 2024, 12:30:52 PM »
Fewer than half of Americans have a passport. I can't remember the last time I saw someone carrying a birth certificate. I haven't received a new social security card in probably 30 years.

Simply put: the overwhelming majority of people do not carry proof of citizenship, and I would bet that in the range of 50% of citizens couldn't easily start carrying it.

Not to mention how ridiculous it is that we should have to carry our papers. What is this, East Germany?

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« Reply #40177 on: November 22, 2024, 12:31:40 PM »
An AB60 license looks the same as a regular driver’s license (DL), but is marked “Federal Limits Apply” in the upper right-hand corner.
To date, the California DMV has issued more than 1,000,000 AB60 licenses to undocumented aliens.2
might not want to carry that one
that one could get you a seat on the bus
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« Reply #40178 on: November 22, 2024, 12:33:14 PM »
not sure how you can just deport 20-30 million illegals. logistics of that are incomprehensible. it's not realistically possible. any illegal arrested for a crime should be auto-deported- but for some dumbass reason often times they are just let go.

better idea imo would be to try your best to stop the flow of illegal immigration/border crossings. maybe shut down the empire a little bit and bring troops home from one of the nearly 900 bases we have across the globe and start building outposts and fortifications on the southern border and station military personnel there. invest whatever billions it cost to build massive 30+ foot walls and electrical fences- station sniper shooters in towers every x distance, patrol the area with thousands of armed reaper drones- shoot to kill anyone who tries to illegally cross the border. you do all that border crossings will stop dead in their tracks.

Mexican drug cartels are also a major problem in all of this. Mexico is incapable of dealing with the cartels. US should do it for them. Time to send in the CIA hit squads, US special forces, and reaper drones and kill every single high and mid level cartel member. Hunt them down like the animals they are and wipe them from the face of the earth.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40179 on: November 22, 2024, 12:34:28 PM »
I don't expect any real mass deportations to occur.  By mass, I mean ten million or so.  Won't happen.
I think the high score is 432K deported by the Obama administration in 2013.  I think Trump will surpass that yearly number by quite a bit but 10 million over 4 years is hard to imagine.
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