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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #39284 on: November 12, 2024, 07:41:31 AM »
One thing about opening up more areas for drilling, that's fine, I guess, but doesn't mean companies will actually drill there (much).  If production increases to the point prices start to fall.... OPEC will respond, and so will Exxon.

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« Reply #39285 on: November 12, 2024, 08:05:35 AM »
This is from my NYT daily feed, so take it for what it's worth:

There are four areas in which a Republican Congress is most likely to make policy changes. For three of them, the party seems mostly united, and legislation does not necessarily have to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. (Some budget bills can pass with a simple majority.) For the last — aid to Ukraine — enough Republicans oppose a bill to keep it from becoming law.
1. Tax cuts: The signature legislation Trump signed in his first term was a 2017 law that cut taxes for almost all Americans, but especially the wealthy and corporations. Many of those cuts expire next year, and a Republican Congress is almost certain to extend most of them.
The biggest question is whether Congress will cut taxes even more, as Trump has said he favors (on tips, for example). That would make an already expensive tax bill even more costly — and lawmakers who are worried about the federal debt, including some Republicans, might oppose it.
2. Immigration: Nothing animated Trump on the campaign trail like immigration. He has promised mass deportations, which he could start by himself with executive action. But fully executing his plans will require money from Congress — for example, to hire border agents and build more of the wall.
Bigger changes to the immigration system would require bipartisan support to overcome a filibuster. Democrats have backed stricter entry rules before, but they might refuse to work with Trump on his signature issue. Some of Trump’s wealthy supporters have also pushed him to allow more legal immigration, but it’s unclear if Congress would agree.
3. Energy and climate: Congressional Republicans will probably reduce clean-energy funding, and Trump can unilaterally permit more oil and gas drilling and cut environmental regulations. Those moves will likely worsen climate change, but Republicans hope they will reduce energy costs.
There may also be opportunities for bipartisan legislating. Lawmakers from both parties want to streamline the permitting process, which could help oil, gas and clean energy projects move forward.
4. Ukraine: Trump and many congressional Republicans are skeptical about providing more aid for Ukraine’s defense against Russia. The aid approved earlier this year will probably run out sometime in 2025, at which point Ukraine’s struggles on the battlefield will grow.


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« Reply #39286 on: November 12, 2024, 08:44:46 AM »
2. Illegal Immigration: Nothing animated Trump on the campaign trail like Illegal immigration. He has promised mass deportations, which he could start by himself with executive action. But fully executing his plans will require money from Congress — for example, to hire border agents and build more of the wall.
Bigger changes to the immigration system would require bipartisan support to overcome a filibuster. Democrats have backed stricter entry rules before, but they might refuse to work with Trump on his signature issue. Some of Trump’s wealthy supporters have also pushed him to allow more legal immigration, but it’s unclear if Congress would agree.


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« Reply #39287 on: November 12, 2024, 08:48:38 AM »
The reported annualized CPI is 2.4%.  That isn't the same of course as the inflation we may experience out there.
Let's talk about consumer confidence...

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« Reply #39288 on: November 12, 2024, 08:51:12 AM »
I just bought extra large Kroger eggs here, they were $3.29 as I recall.  And I had a coupon making them "free".  

The price increase on one item of course can't define overall inflation, but the CPI doesn't do a great job either.  I don't know what "real inflation" might be, there are several metrics used, they are all under 3% in the US.  Gas prices locally are under $3 outside the urban areas.

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« Reply #39289 on: November 12, 2024, 08:56:39 AM »
This is from my NYT daily feed, so take it for what it's worth:

There are four areas in which a Republican Congress is most likely to make policy changes. For three of them, the party seems mostly united, and legislation does not necessarily have to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. (Some budget bills can pass with a simple majority.) For the last — aid to Ukraine — enough Republicans oppose a bill to keep it from becoming law.
1. Tax cuts: The signature legislation Trump signed in his first term was a 2017 law that cut taxes for almost all Americans, but especially the wealthy and corporations. Many of those cuts expire next year, and a Republican Congress is almost certain to extend most of them.
The biggest question is whether Congress will cut taxes even more, as Trump has said he favors (on tips, for example). That would make an already expensive tax bill even more costly — and lawmakers who are worried about the federal debt, including some Republicans, might oppose it.
2. Immigration: Nothing animated Trump on the campaign trail like immigration. He has promised mass deportations, which he could start by himself with executive action. But fully executing his plans will require money from Congress — for example, to hire border agents and build more of the wall.
Bigger changes to the immigration system would require bipartisan support to overcome a filibuster. Democrats have backed stricter entry rules before, but they might refuse to work with Trump on his signature issue. Some of Trump’s wealthy supporters have also pushed him to allow more legal immigration, but it’s unclear if Congress would agree.
3. Energy and climate: Congressional Republicans will probably reduce clean-energy funding, and Trump can unilaterally permit more oil and gas drilling and cut environmental regulations. Those moves will likely worsen climate change, but Republicans hope they will reduce energy costs.
There may also be opportunities for bipartisan legislating. Lawmakers from both parties want to streamline the permitting process, which could help oil, gas and clean energy projects move forward.
4. Ukraine: Trump and many congressional Republicans are skeptical about providing more aid for Ukraine’s defense against Russia. The aid approved earlier this year will probably run out sometime in 2025, at which point Ukraine’s struggles on the battlefield will grow.


1.  I think the 2017 tax cuts will be made permanent.  Voting to raise taxes is never a political winner.

2.  I think enforcing existing laws will go along way towards fulfilling Trump's campaign promises.  There will be funds for more wall and increased personnel one way or the other such as budget resolution.

4.  I get the feeling Trump's stance on the Ukraine-Russia war is evolving in Ukraine's favor.  For example, Trumps appointment for National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz, who has been notably pro-Ukraine.

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« Reply #39290 on: November 12, 2024, 09:01:21 AM »
I just bought extra large Kroger eggs here, they were $3.29 as I recall.  And I had a coupon making them "free". 

The price increase on one item of course can't define overall inflation, but the CPI doesn't do a great job either.  I don't know what "real inflation" might be, there are several metrics used, they are all under 3% in the US.  Gas prices locally are under $3 outside the urban areas.
We don't buy store brand eggs. They suck.
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« Reply #39291 on: November 12, 2024, 09:01:25 AM »
We COULD have an immigration law overhaul with some compromise, but Trump historically hasn't worked out compromise in the past.

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« Reply #39292 on: November 12, 2024, 09:04:21 AM »
My wife used to buy the "cage free" expensive eggs.  On weekends, I will fix some egg thing for breakfast, and she went on about how much better her expensive eggs were.

Of course, I had bought Kroger eggs that week.  She refused to believe me, at first.-  I don't have great tasters, but I can't tell any difference at all.

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« Reply #39293 on: November 12, 2024, 09:05:27 AM »
My oldest has a friend whose family raises chickens.  Every time we drive car pool, we come home with a dozen free eggs

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« Reply #39294 on: November 12, 2024, 09:07:07 AM »
My wife used to buy the "cage free" expensive eggs.  On weekends, I will fix some egg thing for breakfast, and she went on about how much better her expensive eggs were.

Of course, I had bought Kroger eggs that week.  She refused to believe me, at first.-  I don't have great tasters, but I can't tell any difference at all.
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« Reply #39295 on: November 12, 2024, 09:07:10 AM »
My wife used to buy the "cage free" expensive eggs.  On weekends, I will fix some egg thing for breakfast, and she went on about how much better her expensive eggs were.

Of course, I had bought Kroger eggs that week.  She refused to believe me, at first.-  I don't have great tasters, but I can't tell any difference at all.
If you use them right away, I can't tell a difference.  But I think the Kroger eggs, even as quickly as 72 hours later, blah

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« Reply #39296 on: November 12, 2024, 09:08:29 AM »
In Europe, eggs are not refrigerated, in the main.  They aren't washed, so they keep better at RT.  When I first saw this I was a bit scandalized wondering if they needed an egg lobby.

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« Reply #39297 on: November 12, 2024, 09:12:40 AM »
I have 3 different friends that give me eggs
I can't tell the difference between store bought

well some are different sizes and colors

store bought larger and whiter
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