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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37842 on: October 11, 2024, 12:23:47 PM »
As I understand it, Congress allocated monies for COVID and immigrants and that money is not fungible.  I think that spending is absurd, by and large, but those pots of money can't legally be diverted to hurricane relief.

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« Reply #37843 on: October 11, 2024, 01:02:24 PM »
FEMA monies were diverted to Covid and Migrants.

This information can easily be found online.
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« Reply #37844 on: October 11, 2024, 01:06:21 PM »
What I have read, which admitedly might be disinformation, is that Congress allocated the monies to migrants and COVID back when, and the money cannot be diverted, nor can disaster relief funds be diverted to COVID and migrants.

If the potentates actually diverted money appropriated for X and used it for Y they committed a crime.
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« Reply #37845 on: October 11, 2024, 01:18:20 PM »
No accountability.
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« Reply #37846 on: October 11, 2024, 01:35:33 PM »
The migrant thing was misinformation, now that I dig deeper. 

The Covid thing is real.
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« Reply #37847 on: October 11, 2024, 01:36:22 PM »
Unless we're being lied to, of course, which is distinct and real possibility.
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« Reply #37848 on: October 11, 2024, 01:46:06 PM »
When I see "facts" from numerous sources, I lean to thinking they are probably correct.

I can understand why FEMA would have spent money on COVID in 2021 and some in 2022, but hardly that much today.  The cite below might be credible.  (I don't find much Trump says credible in comparison.)

Analysis: Digging into FEMA spending claims on the campaign trail - Roll Call

One thing quite clear, FEMA has "evolved" from being focussed on disaster relief to being a kind of "pot of money" for Congress to allocate to all sorts of things.
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« Reply #37849 on: October 11, 2024, 01:48:03 PM »
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« Reply #37850 on: October 11, 2024, 01:56:27 PM »
Israel Submarine Capabilities (nti.org)

Speaking of Israel, they have been cagey about what the intend to do in response to the Iranian missile attack.  One possibility is use of submarines, they have five.  They apparently have gotten them into the Indian Ocean in the past (through the Suez I surmise).  They could use them to cause significant problems with Iranian shipping.  And then pretend they were not responsible.
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« Reply #37851 on: October 11, 2024, 01:59:58 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2024, 01:18:20 PM
No accountability.
Only the poor are held accountable.
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« Reply #37852 on: October 11, 2024, 02:03:44 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 11, 2024, 01:56:27 PM
Israel Submarine Capabilities (nti.org)

Speaking of Israel, they have been cagey about what the intend to do in response to the Iranian missile attack.  One possibility is use of submarines, they have five.  They apparently have gotten them into the Indian Ocean in the past (through the Suez I surmise).  They could use them to cause significant problems with Iranian shipping.  And then pretend they were not responsible.
There's one particular port, opposite a small island, that would cripple Iran's economy if destroyed.  It's not tricky.  

Drop a bunch of Russian leaflets before erasing it from the planet.  And Chinese takeout menus.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37853 on: October 11, 2024, 02:09:24 PM »
Kharg Island?  It certainly is critical for their oil shipments, and has been largely vacated of late.

Iran oil tankers disappear from local port amid Israel attack fears, satellite images show (cnbc.com)

Just the threat of an attack has rendered it nearly inoperable.

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« Reply #37854 on: October 11, 2024, 02:17:18 PM »
Well we wouldn't want them to have gone through all that trouble for nothing...
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« Reply #37855 on: October 11, 2024, 02:19:40 PM »
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