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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37394 on: September 25, 2024, 08:04:56 PM »
This is exactly my point.  People who say either:
  • Every single metric is improved, or
  • It is a megadisaster
Are two sides of the same coin.  These idiots will simply refuse to look at evidence because, for them, ideology trumps reality.  Both groups can be safely ignored. 

You're a dipshit.  I'm none of the things you say I am.  Rs are suggesting everything is as bad as it was 2-3 years ago, when a vast majority of it has improved.  They count on their base sticking with the outdated data they continue to spew.

"Things have improved across the board the past 9-15 months" isn't the same as "everything is perfect," ass hat.  You only insult me when you skew everything I've said.

Kindly eat a dick.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37395 on: September 25, 2024, 08:33:04 PM »
Because every single metric has improved the last 6 months, year, and 18 months. 
But half the talking heads tell them nothing has improved.
So, not every single metric?

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« Reply #37396 on: September 25, 2024, 08:58:12 PM »
So, not every single metric?
Vast majority....every single......within 2 standard deviations......what the hell do you care?  You nitpick then drive off.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37397 on: September 25, 2024, 10:44:40 PM »
I'm a boomer

Fuck it dude, let's go bowlin
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« Reply #37398 on: September 25, 2024, 11:53:53 PM »
I'm a boomer

Fuck it dude, let's go bowlin
Im curious about the future of bowling alleys.  You cannot get a lane on weekend evenings because "leagues", but nobody bowling in leagues is under 60.  Seems very short sighted.  I think Ive gone bowling maybe twice since graduating law school in 2009, and I used to bowl a ton, I was in a league in middle school.  They are getting their consistent money now, but they are killing their future.  I don't think Ive ever taken my kids bowling bc the only open lane times are like 11am on a Tuesday 

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« Reply #37399 on: September 26, 2024, 12:21:22 AM »
You're a dipshit.  I'm none of the things you say I am.  Rs are suggesting everything is as bad as it was 2-3 years ago, when a vast majority of it has improved.  They count on their base sticking with the outdated data they continue to spew.

"Things have improved across the board the past 9-15 months" isn't the same as "everything is perfect," ass hat.  You only insult me when you skew everything I've said.

Kindly eat a dick.
Unlike you I didn’t twist your words, I quoted you verbatim. Your statement was obviously false. 

I skewed nothing, you really are that ignorant. 

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37400 on: September 26, 2024, 06:25:34 AM »
Vast majority....every single......within 2 standard deviations......what the hell do you care?  You nitpick then drive off.
I've already cited some economic metrics that are  trending in the wrong direction, they aren't hard to find.

And this isn't about some statistical analysis.  A metric is either up, or it's down, or maybe level at times.  The trends are easy to spot.  Some are more qualitative, but many are just hard numbers, like unemployment figures.  So standard deviation would seem irrelevant to any discussion.

I also would add a caution about calling posters pejorative names here.

U.S. Economy at a Glance | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
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« Reply #37401 on: September 26, 2024, 06:42:13 AM »
I think this is a pretty fair summary, brief and not detailed, but it's intended for "less technical" readers I suspect.  Many here have discussed these topics of course and note that no economy has every single metric looking good that I can recall.  And there are signs things may be getting worse soonish (signs don't always result in tangible results).  But, partisans can assert that the economy is GREAT!  or DISASTER!, which is understood of course, some of us try and be more ... quantitative and less partisan.

What’s really happening in America’s economy (Trump and Biden spin aside) | CNN Business

The biggest flashing red light in the economy right now is the level of debt people are racking up.
One reason consumer spending has held up so well in the face of higher-than-desirable inflation combined with the highest interest rates in over two decades is that consumers aren’t necessarily spending within their means.
The savings many accumulated during the pandemic have all but evaporated, leading to a lot more credit card purchases that aren’t being paid back on time.
That, combined with the gradually cooling labor market — which is reducing workers’ leverage — is causing some households to accumulate more debt and fall into serious delinquency, meaning 90+ days late on a payment.
Recent New York Fed data showed the percentage of credit card balances in serious delinquency climbed to its highest level since 2012.



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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37402 on: September 26, 2024, 07:32:40 AM »
Every metric. Heh.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37403 on: September 26, 2024, 07:40:48 AM »
Imagine I posted "UGA has not been scored on this year."  

If someone corrects me and says, rightly, well, you mean TDs, as they have allowed FGs.  My best course of action would be to own up and say "Yes, I misstated, I meant TDs. instead of my absolute assertion."

Or, option 2, I could resort to profanity and name calling and look much worse than had I made a simple misstatement.  

Likewise, "every single metric" is unambiguous, as opposed to, say "nearly every important metric", or "most metrics".  

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« Reply #37404 on: September 26, 2024, 08:01:05 AM »
its highest level since 2012

well, we survived 2012 w/o an economic collapse
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« Reply #37405 on: September 26, 2024, 08:05:42 AM »
You're a dipshit.  I'm none of the things you say I am.  Rs are suggesting everything is as bad as it was 2-3 years ago, when a vast majority of it has improved.  They count on their base sticking with the outdated data they continue to spew.

"Things have improved across the board the past 9-15 months" isn't the same as "everything is perfect," ass hat.  You only insult me when you skew everything I've said.

Kindly eat a dick.
What data is outdated, specifically? 

A major metric of our economy - maybe the biggest metric - is construction, and it's down just about everywhere.

And not just down a little. Down a lot. Specifically, why is that?

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« Reply #37406 on: September 26, 2024, 09:21:08 AM »
What data is outdated, specifically?

A major metric of our economy - maybe the biggest metric - is construction, and it's down just about everywhere.

And not just down a little. Down a lot. Specifically, why is that?
He really isn't smart enough to engage in this conversation, that is obvious by his resort to calling me a dipshit and telling me to eat a dick when I called him out on his factual misstatement.  

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« Reply #37407 on: September 26, 2024, 09:25:41 AM »
He really isn't smart enough to engage in this conversation, that is obvious by his resort to calling me a dipshit and telling me to eat a dick when I called him out on his factual misstatement. 
It's .... remarkable, to me, repeated instances where he then claims to be the victim and then lashes out with name calling and profanity, which of course is a clear sign.


 

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