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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37338 on: September 25, 2024, 09:44:52 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 25, 2024, 09:39:04 AM
So... not every single metric, then?
LMAO

Anyone who can't see all of the economic problems and warnings is a clown.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37339 on: September 25, 2024, 09:51:42 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 25, 2024, 09:39:04 AM
So... not every single metric, then?
Rarely would they all look good.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37340 on: September 25, 2024, 10:00:12 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 25, 2024, 09:51:42 AM
Rarely would they all look good. 
Well sure.

And it's highly unlikely that I'd ever claim they all would...
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37341 on: September 25, 2024, 10:17:33 AM »


only one single metric
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37342 on: September 25, 2024, 10:19:04 AM »
The stock market is not a metric. I'd guess 90 percent of our country is not in it.
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« Reply #37343 on: September 25, 2024, 10:21:01 AM »
but, of the 10% that are in it...........

how much of the economy is driven and/or affected by them?
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« Reply #37344 on: September 25, 2024, 10:22:37 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 25, 2024, 10:21:01 AM
but, of the 10% that are in it...........

how much of the economy is driven and/or affected by them?
Depends on how much money they choose to spend.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37345 on: September 25, 2024, 10:27:40 AM »
Saw a story where two Minneapolis downtown office buildings just sold for $6m, about 91% less than what they sold for in 2019.

Yeah, everything's peachy
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37346 on: September 25, 2024, 10:27:49 AM »
I can tell you I'm directly linked to homebuilding in my area, which is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation (and has been for several decades).  Homebuilding here is way down.  Not stagnant, but I can look at all the data for jobs we did and didn't do and building in my segment is down 30-40% from last  year.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37347 on: September 25, 2024, 10:30:14 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2024, 10:19:04 AM
The stock market is not a metric. I'd guess 90 percent of our country is not in it.
I disagree. A lot more than 10% are in it via retirement programs, whether that's a pension system investing on their behalf, or 401K. 
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« Reply #37348 on: September 25, 2024, 10:36:29 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on September 25, 2024, 10:27:49 AM
I can tell you I'm directly linked to homebuilding in my area, which is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation (and has been for several decades).  Homebuilding here is way down.  Not stagnant, but I can look at all the data for jobs we did and didn't do and building in my segment is down 30-40% from last  year. 
Same.
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« Reply #37349 on: September 25, 2024, 10:39:20 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on September 25, 2024, 10:27:40 AM
Saw a story where two Minneapolis downtown office buildings just sold for $6m, about 91% less than what they sold for in 2019.

Yeah, everything's peachy
Probably more to do with WFH culture and "culture wars" than the general economy at this point.  
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« Reply #37350 on: September 25, 2024, 10:41:03 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on September 25, 2024, 10:39:20 AM
Probably more to do with WFH culture and "culture wars" than the general economy at this point. 
Those are all connected.
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« Reply #37351 on: September 25, 2024, 10:45:43 AM »
BRAD is right, but the stock market only means anything--as does any dollar measure of wealth, be it wages, savings, whatever--inasmuch as it relates to common budgetary requirements and inflation.  Inflation is obvious.  What I mean by the first thing is what does the average person need to spend money on in today's world.  Technology advancements both improve and degrade that portion in certain regards.  Coming from the healthcare sector over the last few years, I can tell you that the health of the general population is getting worse and more and more money is regularly having to be spent on prescriptions, procedures, doctor visits, etc.  

It's possible for the stock market to go up and people with holdings in it to be in worse shape, is what I'm saying. 

I don't know about where y'all live, but here in southeast Texas, we're not struggling as much as the stories I see/hear from some other areas of the country, but compared to ourselves--SETX at previous time periods--it ain't good, and trending poorly.  If somebody wants to show me "metrics" for how things have been improving, then I have some questions for them as to why their metrics are ass.  
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