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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34846 on: July 22, 2024, 10:23:39 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on July 22, 2024, 10:19:05 AM
And that's a problem?
Ask the Squad and the rest of the Palestinian supporters/terrorists.

I have no problem with it at all.
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« Reply #34847 on: July 22, 2024, 10:33:23 AM »
stick your finger in the air to see what way the wind is blowing, do a few polls in BG states
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34848 on: July 22, 2024, 10:34:48 AM »
Interesting article from NBC comparing Biden vs Trump polling to Harris vs Trump polling.  There really isn't much difference:

Table with 5 columns and 4 rows.
[th]Poll[/th]
[th]Biden[/th]
[th]Trump[/th]
[th]Harris[/th]
[th]Trump[/th]
[th]CBS News/YouGov[/th]
47%52%48%51%
[th]NBC News[/th]
43%45%45%47%
[th]Fox News[/th]
48%49%48%49%
[th]NPR/PBS/Marist[/th]
50%48%50%49%
Harris is the same per NBC (down 2%) and Fox (down 1%), better per CBS (down 3% vs down 5%) and worse per NPR (up 1% vs up 2%).  


I thought this was interesting:
Among the Republicans unsatisfied with Trump as the nominee:

  • Trump led Biden by 46%, 63-17.  
  • Trump leads Harris by 57, 73-16.  
So Republican leaning voters unsatisfied with Trump are LESS likely to flip to Harris than they were to flip to Biden.  I find that interesting and problematic for Harris.  

The only real demographic polling difference between Biden and Harris is that Harris is slightly better among black voters while Biden is slightly better among white voters.  So theoretically the switch helps the D's in heavily black states and helps the R's in heavily white states but I'm not sure that you'd find any battleground states amongst either of those groups.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34849 on: July 22, 2024, 10:36:24 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2024, 10:23:39 AM
Ask the Squad and the rest of the Palestinian supporters/terrorists.

I have no problem with it at all.
Ah, so that is where you were going with that.  

Eh, I don't think it matters.  The pro-Palestinians on the far left might not like it but it isn't like AOC is going to buy a MAGA hat and vote for Trump.  Where can she go?  
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« Reply #34850 on: July 22, 2024, 10:41:18 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 22, 2024, 10:36:24 AM
Ah, so that is where you were going with that. 

Eh, I don't think it matters.  The pro-Palestinians on the far left might not like it but it isn't like AOC is going to buy a MAGA hat and vote for Trump.  Where can she go? 
It would be a talking point for the GOP. Given how desperate the left is to keep power, I don't think their strategists will want to give that talking point.
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« Reply #34851 on: July 22, 2024, 11:01:17 AM »
it's one of the controversial issues you probably don't want to make a priority
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34852 on: July 22, 2024, 11:20:30 AM »
Not sure VP pick really matters. I am sure it never mattered to me when I vote for president. 

I can’t even remember who Hillary picked for her VP (not that I voted for her). 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34853 on: July 22, 2024, 11:25:14 AM »
Perception perception perception.
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« Reply #34854 on: July 22, 2024, 11:36:07 AM »
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« Reply #34855 on: July 22, 2024, 11:54:30 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2024, 10:23:39 AM
Ask the Squad and the rest of the Palestinian supporters/terrorists.

I have no problem with it at all.
no offense this is mind-numbingly ignorant rhetoric. 

supporting the Palestinian people against the horrific onslaught, ethnic cleansing and apartheid committed upon them by the state of Israel does not make them terrorists or supporters of terrorists.

Hamas is a symptom of the disease of Israel’s occupation, apartheid, and brutality of the Israeli government towards the Palestinian people for the last oh- 7-8 decades. Hamas isn’t the first radical Islamist group in Palestine to oppose Israeli occupation  and brutality and they won’t be the last. The horrific criminal barbaric actions of the Netanyahu government (which crazily believe it or not has been propping Hamas up by transferring funds in excess of billions with a B dollars to Hamas) almost guarantees that. Insurgency math and all. 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #34856 on: July 22, 2024, 11:58:59 AM »
What specifically is "mindnumbingly ignorant" in his post?

He is merely noting that a Jewish VP selection might not find favor with some Democrats/liberals.  Some Palestinians are very clearly terrorists by any metric.

He said nothing whatsoever about the origins of their terrorism.
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« Reply #34857 on: July 22, 2024, 12:02:13 PM »
Unfortunately, AOC is not old enough to be Kamala's VP candidate.  That would be the dream ticket from an entertainment perspective.
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« Reply #34858 on: July 22, 2024, 12:06:16 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 10:23:06 AM
My Jewish friends are the whitest people I know.
that’s because they uh…are white.

Jewish/Israeli isn’t really an ethnicity. Judaism is a religion not an ethnicity and Israel is a nation that is only roughly 80 years old and it’s basically a colonizer settler state whose entire population is Eastern and Central European white people and their descendants- which conquered Palestine via mass immigration, bloodshed, and ethnic cleansing. 
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« Reply #34859 on: July 22, 2024, 12:08:14 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 22, 2024, 11:01:17 AM
it's one of the controversial issues you probably don't want to make a priority
I rest my case
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