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If Joe does drop out under pressure from the elites (so much for "Democracy"...), Harris is the nominee. I don't think they could pivot from her due to backlash.

Who is the VP? Is there an obvious choice?

Joe ain't dropping out. Dude has spent his life trying to attain the spot he's at. He ain't giving up his grip on power. Neither is his wife. They'll have to force him out someway, maybe 25A?

IF Joe kicks rocks Harris would almost have to be the nominee and not just because she's the incumbent VP, but because all the huge campaign cash raised by the wealthy Dem donors would have to go to her by law. They wouldn't legally be able to transfer it over to a new campaign. And only then that money would be able to seamlessly transfer to Harris only after Joe accepted the party nomination and then willingly stepped down. Which again, doubtful that happens.

That's politics.

Anyone who wants the job shouldn't be trusted with it.

this. which is why I so wanted Jon Snow to be king in got, precisely because he never wanted it and would've only done it out of duty and service. writers really f*cked up the greatest tv show of all time with that last dogshit season. still in disbelief to this day.

Quiet competence sells in this state.

PJ Fleck says "howdy".

In this day, why do we even still have rallies?  I can't imagine standing outside for hours, dealing with crowds and security, to watch an asshole say the same thing he always says.  I wouldn't watch either of them speak in my backyard

It's for the mouth-breathers who like to chant something every 4 minutes for 6 hours straight.

My WTF takeaway from the aftermath of the shooting was all these interviewees sharing that they've been to 20 or 32 or 17 Trump rallies.

Must like re-runs.  I'm mystified by it.  

Joe ain't dropping out. Dude has spent his life trying to attain the spot he's at. He ain't giving up his grip on power. Neither is his wife. They'll have to force him out someway, maybe 25A?

IF Joe kicks rocks Harris would almost have to be the nominee and not just because she's the incumbent VP, but because all the huge campaign cash raised by the wealthy Dem donors would have to go to her by law. They wouldn't legally be able to transfer it over to a new campaign. And only then that money would be able to seamlessly transfer to Harris only after Joe accepted the party nomination and then willingly stepped down. Which again, doubtful that happens.

I think he does drop out.  I think they are laying the tracks as we speak.  

I think he does drop out.  I think they are laying the tracks as we speak.

This has been my thinking since the debate.

FWIW, I don't even think the "Ohio Problem"* is an actual problem. I think it would actually work in favor of the Democrats.

For anyone who doesn't know, the "Ohio Problem" is that Ohio Law stipulates that everything for the ballot has to be finalized 90 days before the election. This applies across the board to local candidates and issues, Statewide candidates and issues, and also to the Statewide Presidential candidates.

In past years the Ohio Legislature made exceptions when both Conventions were after the deadline. This year is screwy because the Republican Convention is right now which is before the deadline but the Democratic Convention is in a few weeks, after the deadline.

I think this actually helps the Democrats because it doesn't really matter for the Presidential election anyway since Trump will carry Ohio regardless.

At the same time, it would put Ohio's Republican Legislators in a lose/lose situation:

• If they DO NOT extend the deadline for the Democrats, that will make them look petty and annoy indepents and swing voters.
• If the DO extend the deadline a portion of their base will see them as weak-kneed RINO's.

Either way they lose.