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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33936 on: July 03, 2024, 02:38:25 PM »
I read that Oceana is the main enemy now.
They're losing the war with climate change and rising sea levels.
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« Reply #33937 on: July 03, 2024, 09:26:35 PM »
My point was that there's flipping all the time.

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I think one of the things we've seen flip more recently (which has free trade implications) is that the Democrats have become more and more the "elite" party rather than the party of the common working man. It hasn't completely flipped because organized labor is still on their side, but I think increasingly the working class don't identify with Democrat ideals. So the Republicans, who used to be the "business" party and @medinabuckeye1 would call out for supporting both immigration [to bring in lower cost workers] and free trade [to seek out lower cost workers elsewhere] is becoming the "we have to protect our manufacturing worker" party. Hence anti-immigration [which dovetails nicely with continuing to shore up the racist Southerner base] and pro-tariff [don't buy stuff from low cost countries, or from China because they'll get too powerful]. It also fits well with nationalism, which was always historically the Republican Party's turf as well.
I guess my argument is it wasn't a flip, more an exception. People didn't grow much more concerned with civil liberties, or the intricacies of due process for a citizen that is also a foreign terrorist. It's just kinda a think to poke at. 

(I think the party of "elites" thing is a bit imprecise, only because "elites" is a word that kind of barely means anything any more. But it's definitely a party where the "snobs" and "pretentious" elements have become the loudest. It is also interesting because as you said, organized labor stayed on one side, while the other broke organized labor, aided by the free trade switch, and has collected what used to be that labor into its coalition. Strange turns

It's also funny because the "don't buy stuff from low cost countries" is in a way a virtue to talk about, but when it comes down to it, capitalism reigns)

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33938 on: July 04, 2024, 07:31:57 AM »
Israel Has Seized More Land This Year Than in Any Year in the Past Three Decades  - WSJ
Israel Has Seized More Land This Year Than in Any Year in the Past Three Decades  - WSJ
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33939 on: July 04, 2024, 07:41:21 AM »
Israel Has Seized More Land This Year Than in Any Year in the Past Three Decades  - WSJ
Israel Has Seized More Land This Year Than in Any Year in the Past Three Decades  - WSJ
Not a headline I like seeing. I guess it’s a little contested, but still not ideal. 

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« Reply #33940 on: July 04, 2024, 08:13:42 AM »
I was rather shocked by the headline. The article clears things up.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33941 on: July 04, 2024, 08:14:33 AM »
I can't read the article, I'm not sure how they mean "seized", and who has done the seizing.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33942 on: July 04, 2024, 08:24:27 AM »
Read the article. ;)
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33943 on: July 04, 2024, 08:36:09 AM »
I can only read this much.

TEL AVIV—Israel has declared control over its single-largest swath of land in the occupied West Bank this year, expanding its ability to build settlements in the Palestinian territory as it pursues war in Gaza

Jewish settlements in the West Bank are considered illegal by much of the international community.



"Declared control" ... I thought they already controlled the entire west bank.
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« Reply #33944 on: July 04, 2024, 01:57:30 PM »
Was Oct 7 considered illegal?  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33946 on: July 04, 2024, 06:50:32 PM »
Housing correction coming?

https://www.newsweek.com/housing-market-entering-crash-stage-multiple-cities-1920530
I'm paying attention - the house across the street from me is for sale at roughly twice what we paid 7 years ago. It has actually sat for a few days without being sold - a new thing in the area.


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« Reply #33948 on: July 04, 2024, 10:56:48 PM »
Inevitably.
And if it largely happens before November, Bide will be blamed.
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« Reply #33949 on: July 05, 2024, 08:14:33 AM »
Inevitably.
And if it largely happens before November, Bide will be blamed.
Interest rates. It's a problem that was manufactured on purpose.
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