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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33908 on: July 02, 2024, 03:31:57 PM »
I agree, but he would also love to have land access to it, which he doesn't have. Had the 3 Baltics not been admitted to NATO, he'd probably already would have taken (or tried to take) one or all of them by now - Lithuania in particular. He already basically owns Belarus anyway.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't have permitted the entry of the Baltic States into NATO because I don't think they are a vital strategic interest of the United States either. 

If it were up to me the Eastern limit of NATO would be:
  • Finland
  • Poland
  • Slovakia
  • Hungary
  • Greece
  • Turkey


Now that they are members, I wouldn't kick the Baltics out.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33909 on: July 02, 2024, 03:35:19 PM »
If it were up to me, I wouldn't have permitted the entry of the Baltic States into NATO because I don't think they are a vital strategic interest of the United States either.

If it were up to me the Eastern limit of NATO would be:
  • Finland
  • Poland
  • Slovakia
  • Hungary
  • Greece
  • Turkey


Now that they are members, I wouldn't kick the Baltics out.
Agree. But I'm not a fan of Hungary being in either.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33910 on: July 02, 2024, 04:08:05 PM »
Under this decision, a trucker that gets cited for running overweight is going to sue, claiming that the both the CFR and state regulations flowing from the CFR are unconstitutional. And in the right court, the judge will find exactly that. Terrible, terrible decision.
Not my words, but my thoughts on the decision.


For those who don't understand what Chevron Deference is, and why SCOTUS ended it, here's the long and short of it:

A family fishing company, Loper Bright Enterprises, was being driven out of business, because they couldn't afford the $700 per day they were being charged by the National Marine Fisheries Service to monitor their company.

The thing is, federal law doesn't authorize NMFS to charge businesses for this. They just decided to start doing it in 2013.

Why did they think they could away with just charging people without any legal authorization?

Because in 1984, in the Chevron decision, the Supreme Court decided that regulatory agencies were the "experts" in their field, and the courts should just defer to their "interpretation" of the law.

So for the past 40 years, federal agencies have been able to "interpret" laws to mean whatever they want, and the courts had to just go with it.

It was called Chevron Deference, and it put bureaucrats in charge of the country.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33911 on: July 02, 2024, 04:42:11 PM »
Great explanation of the decision RR.

The 4th branch of government has been neutered. Much needed.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33912 on: July 02, 2024, 04:45:40 PM »
Overturn Wickard next? :57:

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« Reply #33913 on: July 02, 2024, 05:15:15 PM »
That would be fine with me.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33914 on: July 03, 2024, 08:15:24 AM »
Ruh roh. Death Penalty Part 2?

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33915 on: July 03, 2024, 08:30:53 AM »
nah, just pay the taxman
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33916 on: July 03, 2024, 08:41:12 AM »
Why would they falsify the numbers?  Why would they be liable for taxes?

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33918 on: July 03, 2024, 08:49:59 AM »
oh, everyone is liable for taxes all of the time

my understanding back when I was a small donor to UNL was that it was 80% deductible - that leaves 20%
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33919 on: July 03, 2024, 08:51:42 AM »
I would guess they operate as a nonprofit, and thus are not liable for income taxes.


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« Reply #33920 on: July 03, 2024, 08:53:49 AM »
but, their donors may be
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