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But, but, but, @MaximumSam says that immigration is all positive, how could something bad like this, or 9/11, or the earlier WTC bombing, or all the thefts, assaults, murders that legal and illegal immigrants commit possibly come from such an unmitigated good?

MaximumSam also thinks people should be generally free. Obviously against the advice of Medinabuckeye1, who thinks we should all submit to government approval before being allowed to do anything.

VP pick isn't that important.

Ah:

• Trump turned 78 a few days ago
• Biden will turn 82 shortly after the election. 

According to NIH the life expectancy of an 80 year old US male is 7 years:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7565998/

The winner will be 78-86 during the term. According to SSI, the per year chance of a 78-86 year old male dying in a year ranges from a little over 5% for a 78 year old to a little under 12% for an 86 year old.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

I would guesstimate from that that the probability of the 2024 Presidential Election winner being alive on January 20, 2029 is around 50/50. Biden is ~3.5 years older so it is a little lower for him and a little higher for the slightly younger Trump but there is most definitely a statistically significant chance of either dying before the next Presidential term ends.

In theory the VP Debate should be more important than ever before. 

MaximumSam also thinks people should be generally free. Obviously against the advice of Medinabuckeye1, who thinks we should all submit to government approval before being allowed to do anything.

LoL.

Clearly you lack an intelligent answer, as already pointed out:

Wanting some control over immigration is a far cry from wanting government control over everything.

But hyperbole is an oft used tactic when one's argument has fallen flat.

Max, this was @OrangeAfroMan level deflection, deceit, and inability to carry on an intelligent conversation. You are better than that.

LoL.

Clearly you lack an intelligent answer, as already pointed out:
Max, this was @OrangeAfroMan level deflection, deceit, and inability to carry on an intelligent conversation. You are better than that.

What answer? You successfully attacked the position that all immigration is always good and nothing bad every happens. Congrats on that, though it isn't a position I've advanced. You can attack freedom in the same way.

What answer? You successfully attacked the position that all immigration is always good and nothing bad every happens. Congrats on that, though it isn't a position I've advanced. You can attack freedom in the same way.

Ok, I did overstate your position.

That said, the article that @847badgerfan linked was just another crime resulting from immigration like 9/11, the earlier WTC Bombing, and literally 1,000's of crimes every week. Are you ok with that? Is it worth it?
Here is a great example:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-attorney-announces-federal-charges-against-47-defendants-250-million-feeding-our-future

Have a look at the defendant list. The vast majority sure don't sound like multi-generational Minnesotans to me. (In case you don't know, Minnesota was mostly populated by Central Europeans and Scandinavians).