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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32914 on: June 13, 2024, 09:03:03 AM »
BLM resulted in BCI here investigating all cop shootings and the prosecutors running on how they would prosecute cops. One can question whether that is positive, but questioning whether it is real change is silly.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32915 on: June 13, 2024, 09:03:50 AM »
It sounds to me like just political verbiage to get elected, with a mostly negative impact on society.


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« Reply #32916 on: June 13, 2024, 09:03:51 AM »
Did the extra investigations end up changing anything?  Or did they largely rubber stamp  the local investigations, resulting in no change?

That's a good example of my point, a kind of bandaid that sounds fine, and actually is nothing new or different.  And whoosh, the BLM protests are long gone.  I guess the problem now is entirely and totally solved, no?


Yes, there are now multiple cops under indictment for murder (among other things)

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« Reply #32917 on: June 13, 2024, 09:04:30 AM »
I doubt that is any different from what would have happened anyway.


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« Reply #32918 on: June 13, 2024, 09:04:56 AM »
Did the extra investigations end up changing anything?  Or did they largely rubber stamp  the local investigations, resulting in no change?

That's a good example of my point, a kind of bandaid that sounds fine, and actually is nothing new or different.  And whoosh, the BLM protests are long gone.  I guess the problem now is entirely and totally solved, no?


The defund movement was very harmful to cities. They are mostly in regret mode and are begging to have new cops sign up. Good luck with that.
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« Reply #32919 on: June 13, 2024, 09:05:11 AM »
I doubt that is any different from what would have happened anyway.


Maybe, but you have no idea really

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« Reply #32920 on: June 13, 2024, 09:05:45 AM »
Maybe, but you have no idea really
That goes for all of us.
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« Reply #32921 on: June 13, 2024, 09:07:05 AM »
That goes for all of us.
I mean sure, but I work in the criminal justice system in Columbus, so I'd probably know more about that than say someone who doesn't work in the criminal justice system and doesn't live in Columbus. 

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« Reply #32922 on: June 13, 2024, 09:08:37 AM »
How many Columbus cops have been charged in a shooting death over the past two years?

How many have actually shot and killed a victim at all?

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« Reply #32923 on: June 13, 2024, 09:10:24 AM »
How many Columbus cops have been charged in a shooting death over the past two years?

How many have actually shot and killed a victim at all?
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« Reply #32924 on: June 13, 2024, 09:12:54 AM »
I thought I was conversing with THE EXPERT on such things that would know.

I actually did check, some cops are up on drug charges that I can see, and something about altering evidence.  

Cop shootings obviously are rare, and probably down, because no cop wants to be under that microscope.

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« Reply #32925 on: June 13, 2024, 09:15:26 AM »
I thought I was conversing with THE EXPERT on such things that would know.

I actually did check, some cops are up on drug charges that I can see, and something about altering evidence. 

Cop shootings obviously are rare, and probably down, because no cop wants to be under that microscope.
What, the EXPERT told me that the protests affected nothing. Huh.

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« Reply #32926 on: June 13, 2024, 09:24:51 AM »
What, the EXPERT told me that the protests affected nothing. Huh.
Cop shootings are down in most places, but not all. That can be both good and bad, of course.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32927 on: June 13, 2024, 09:30:11 AM »
Nothing USEFUL.

Just political panderings and negative actions.  The BCI would typically be called in to review cop shootings anyway unless it was clear cut (and maybe even then).  They come in and rubber stamp the local investigation of an OIS, yay.  

It's akin to the climate change.  The "legislation" passed under some guise of reducing inflation would spend about $37 billion a year on climate change stuff.

That's a great example of my point.  Throw a bit of money at it.

The various estimates for the cost to reach "net zero" by 2050 hover around $50 TRILLION.  With a "T", call it $2 TRILLIOn a year, which probably also isn't enough.  We allocated billions to build, so far, EIGHT EV charging stations.  The private sector has built many more than that in the same time period.

I personally witnessed two "BLM Protests", both were mostly young white folks signaling how they aren't racists.  Then they returned to their lattes and $3K a month apartments and felt smug.  The police here disappeared for about a week.  They just parked their cruisers somewhere and did a "blue out", I witnessed this personally as well, as we usually see police out and about when we walk.  And crime went up.  Yay.

Fortunately, that is back to normal around here pretty much.  

I'm all for legal sane protests if someone feels the need, have at it if it makes you feel better.  It's not going to do anything useful with very few exceptions.


 

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