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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32844 on: June 12, 2024, 11:49:37 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 12, 2024, 11:45:37 AM
I figure if 1 or 2 or 4 former officials close to a politician revert and now say he's wonky, well, it happens, OK, probably sour grapes.

When it's 24, I start to think they might know him better than I do, and have a point.

How many books do you think DJT ever read in his life?  Two?  Three?
More than me, for sure.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32845 on: June 12, 2024, 11:56:47 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 12, 2024, 11:45:37 AM
I figure if 1 or 2 or 4 former officials close to a politician revert and now say he's wonky, well, it happens, OK, probably sour grapes.

When it's 24, I start to think they might know him better than I do, and have a point.

How many books do you think DJT ever read in his life?  Two?  Three?
he had who knows how many hundreds of people work for him in his administration. most if not all of those 24 cited are the exact swamp creatures he promised to drain. if they don't like him, well that's A OK in my book.

not sure. but he's had some really good ghost writers write a few books for him. 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32846 on: June 12, 2024, 11:58:26 AM »
I often read 2-3 books in a single week.  

I use this Libby app, it's great.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32847 on: June 12, 2024, 12:09:19 PM »
37 Pieces of Flair on Vimeo

I'm thinking if my server looked like Jennifer, how many pieces of flair would be pretty irrelevant, to me personally.  She could wear none at all.
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« Reply #32848 on: June 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 12, 2024, 12:09:19 PM
37 Pieces of Flair on Vimeo

I'm thinking if my server looked like Jennifer, how many pieces of flair would be pretty irrelevant, to me personally.  She could wear none at all.
She was definitely on "my list" for a very long time.
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« Reply #32849 on: June 12, 2024, 12:27:51 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on June 12, 2024, 10:59:10 AM
One thing that the Biden administration is a country mile better at is running the high levels of the administration. Not much turnover, leaks, and drama. The Trump Cabinet was rank with yes men, sycophants, neer-do-wells, and all the mentioned leaks, drama, and fighting through the media.
I'll agree with that part. Their policies are what I have issues with, but that has been the during most of my life.
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« Reply #32850 on: June 12, 2024, 12:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 12, 2024, 08:13:32 AM
I didn't think much would really happen that was lasting, just as I don't think Trump would change much if he's elected.  I know liberals are claiming it will end "democracy" etc.  I just have very little faith Trump understands how to get ANYTHING done.  He's about bluster and bold talk, in my view.
This should make him the perfect President fir a Libertarian like @betarhoalphadelta right?

Completely ineffective means nothing gets done, perfect?
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« Reply #32851 on: June 12, 2024, 12:53:26 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 12, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
This should make him the perfect President fir a Libertarian like @betarhoalphadelta right?

Completely ineffective means nothing gets done, perfect?
You forgot about the "abolishing 3/4 to 7/8 of the federal government" part of Libertarianism.
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« Reply #32852 on: June 12, 2024, 01:00:42 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 12, 2024, 12:53:26 PM
You forgot about the "abolishing 3/4 to 7/8 of the federal government" part of Libertarianism.
Works for me.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32853 on: June 12, 2024, 01:09:28 PM »
We simply aren't going to eliminate large parts of government, it's not going to happen (short of the eventual major collapse).

It's sort of nice to muse about, but it's not remotely practicable.  I quit thinking about it as any "realistic" option decades ago.

We're also not going to balance the budget any time soon, if ever.

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« Reply #32854 on: June 12, 2024, 01:16:06 PM »
Department of Education would be my big cut, given the chance.

Many others could be trimmed, at a minimum. 
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« Reply #32855 on: June 12, 2024, 01:21:21 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 12, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
This should make him the perfect President fir a Libertarian like @betarhoalphadelta right?

Completely ineffective means nothing gets done, perfect?
Oddly enough it seems that people who have studied this suggest that the combination of a Republican Congress with a Democratic President is the best outcome for libertarians--barring actually electing libertarians, which'll never happen of course.

It creates the gridlock where Republicans in Congress don't want to give the President credit for literally ANYTHING, so they try to kill basically all legislation. Most legislation, of course, being somehow making the government do "more", i.e. growing government. 

IMHO a huge reason that we got a government surplus in the late 90s, beyond obviously you know that whole "internet" thing, is that Republicans wouldn't pass legislation that Clinton would then be able to take credit for, so spending grew more slowly than GDP. I think a similar dynamic took place in the later Obama admin after Republcans regained control of Congress. 

Quote from: utee94 on June 12, 2024, 12:53:26 PM
You forgot about the "abolishing 3/4 to 7/8 of the federal government" part of Libertarianism.

Well, if you can't get what you want, sometimes you have to settle for the best of what you can get [gridlock].
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« Reply #32856 on: June 12, 2024, 01:25:00 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 12, 2024, 01:21:21 PM
Oddly enough it seems that people who have studied this suggest that the combination of a Republican Congress with a Democratic President is the best outcome for libertarians--barring actually electing libertarians, which'll never happen of course.

It creates the gridlock where Republicans in Congress don't want to give the President credit for literally ANYTHING, so they try to kill basically all legislation. Most legislation, of course, being somehow making the government do "more", i.e. growing government.

IMHO a huge reason that we got a government surplus in the late 90s, beyond obviously you know that whole "internet" thing, is that Republicans wouldn't pass legislation that Clinton would then be able to take credit for, so spending grew more slowly than GDP. I think a similar dynamic took place in the later Obama admin after Republcans regained control of Congress.

Well, if you can't get what you want, sometimes you have to settle for the best of what you can get [gridlock].
We wont have that problem after this Nov

It will be a Republican everything

thanks Joe
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #32857 on: June 12, 2024, 01:30:00 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 12, 2024, 01:25:00 PM
We wont have that problem after this Nov

It will be a Republican everything

thanks Joe
If that's the case, then expect spending to go through the roof. 

Nothing a Republican Congress likes more than spending money their party's President can take credit for. 


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