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medinabuckeye1

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« Reply #32102 on: May 24, 2024, 04:04:47 PM »
How would the ICJ hold Uruguay to account?  By what mechanism?
Just a thought but the King/President/Premier of Uruguay might actually get arrested if he travelled to some other country and there was an ICJ warrant out for him.  The King/President/Premier of the US or Israel faces basically no such risk because the US and Israel have very large weapons that could be brought to bear against any country that facilitated such an action.  

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« Reply #32103 on: May 24, 2024, 04:16:17 PM »
It's possible, but I figure a "Uruguay" that had gone so extreme would mean the head wouldn't travel much if any.

Putin only travels to friendly countries for this reason (and others).


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« Reply #32104 on: May 24, 2024, 04:23:05 PM »
NYC is the financial capital of the republic and the world at large really, so it will always rebound in the end imo. Not sure it's fair to compare other cities to it for that reason.

Not sure about San Fransisco, Portland, or Seattle, but Chicago is a lost cause. That place is probably permanently f**cked.
They had what I consider to be their last chance* when they were voting to replace Beetlejuice.

Paul Vallas would have done a far better job than what they elected - a Teacher Union Stooge. The CTU now runs that City, and dark money funds the DA and judges.

* So yeah, it's probably over - unless the black and Latino voters turn on leadership completely. That is the only hope, and there is clear evidence that the tide MAY be turning.

Man, that used to be a GREAT City. It's a crying shame what has happened to it.
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« Reply #32106 on: May 24, 2024, 06:36:36 PM »
There are more Jews in the US than in Israel.  We will always defend it, whether they're going ballistic or not. 

And mdot's posts seem to ignore that Hamas exists.  Anything he blames Israel has done or is doing, Hamas does the same, to its own people.

Pretending otherwise is gross and/or antisemetic.
we defend Israel because it's lobby in the US is incredibly powerful, there is a very significant voting bloc/community in the US that politicians pander to, and also their government is very friendly to ours and serves US interests/hegemony.

Hamas honestly is irrelevant to this entire ordeal when looking at the big picture. Hamas is a relatively new player in this conflict, they've only been around since the very late 1980s and were a nothing group until the last 15-20ish years and have been in power in Gaza since 2007. All this predates that- by a very long time. Israel has been occupying Palestinian territory and subjugating the Palestinian people several decades before the existence of Hamas. Hamas is a symptom of the disease- not the disease. And all Israel has done by indiscriminately slaughtering tens of thousands of women and children en masse is create more fanatical recruits- and whatever comes next- Hamas 2.0 if you will- is only going to be more radical and more insane. Insurgency math- like General McChrystal said in Afhganistan- for every person we kill there's going to be 20 more, those people we killed have brothers, cousins, uncles, sons, nieces, nephews- you kill someone's family- they aren't going to see oh gee thanks.

PS I'm not sure you even know what the term antisemitic means.

Oh...and double PS....Hamas would not be in power or what it is today without....you guessed it...Benjamin Netanyahu's governments propping it up. 

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« Reply #32107 on: May 24, 2024, 06:39:50 PM »
I know the meaning has changed over the years in common usage, but Arabs are also Semitic.

Many of the Jews aren't really.
shhhh.....can't talk about how the majority of them aren't semitic at all, but white colonizer settlers from Europe/US.

what's crazy is the people they have been occupying, brutalizing, and murdering by the tens of thousands for the last 80ish years are actually semitic- and are the ancestors of the people in the fairytale fictional book written thousands of years ago by ignorant moron desert dwellers not that far removed from being literal cavemen- that they claim gives them the right to said land (lol) who just stayed put and were converted to Christianity then to Islam.

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« Reply #32108 on: May 24, 2024, 06:49:38 PM »
Of course it is.  The creation of new terrorists is the only way organizations like Hamas can persist.  Hamas engaged in gross acts of violence in order to provoke gross acts of violence.  This war is centuries-old, not only a few decades like Hamas-apologists keep attempting to purport.
Hamas didn't attack Israel to get fresh recruits. Hamas attacked Israel to bait them into doing exactly what they are doing- and it's actually worked. Israel has never lost this much international support and has never had a US administration constantly bitching about it to the press. Ever. If there isn't a Palestinian statehood and a political settlement what follows Hamas is only going to be more radical and more insane. You don't reap that kind of carnage and brutality on an entire people without creating mortal enemies. You take their homes and take their land and blow up someone's women and children to bits and pieces those people will get revenge or die trying.

And this war is not centuries old. Idk where you're getting that from. Lol. It's all within the last 85ish years.

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« Reply #32109 on: May 24, 2024, 06:59:42 PM »
I believe the concept is that those countries are signatory states to the ICJ and have agreed to abide by them, so if someone in Uruguay starts ethnic cleansing or something, the ICJ might hold them to account.

Whereas the US and Israel gave the ICJ the middle finger and didn't sign so we won't abide by any judgement they make.
this isn't exactly true.

US is practically immune from the ICC because it's far too powerful and no country would dare arrest US leaders on foreign soil and turn them over to the Hague.

Not the case with Israel. Israel is not the worlds greatest superpower. Not even close. Countries that are signatories to the Rome statute are bound by law to arrest and hand over anyone on their soil that is being charged by the ICC. Slew of European countries immediately came out and backed the ICC after the arrest warrants for the Israeli war criminals were announced. Netanyahu or one of this thugs steps foot in the wrong country he's getting arrested and sent to The Hague.

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« Reply #32110 on: May 24, 2024, 07:01:47 PM »
Popped in and saw some of our more rambunctious posters talking about Uruguay. 

Did not provide motivation to see what that’s about

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« Reply #32111 on: May 24, 2024, 07:02:34 PM »
Just a thought but the King/President/Premier of Uruguay might actually get arrested if he travelled to some other country and there was an ICJ warrant out for him.  The King/President/Premier of the US or Israel faces basically no such risk because the US and Israel have very large weapons that could be brought to bear against any country that facilitated such an action. 
head of Uruguay would be coup'd or assassinated by the CIA if he ever stepped that far out of line before it ever got to that point so it's kind of a moot point...

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« Reply #32112 on: May 24, 2024, 07:08:19 PM »
Hamas didn't attack Israel to get fresh recruits. Hamas attacked Israel to bait them into doing exactly what they are doing- and it's actually worked. Israel has never lost this much international support and has never had a US administration constantly bitching about it to the press. Ever. If there isn't a Palestinian statehood and a political settlement what follows Hamas is only going to be more radical and more insane. You don't reap that kind of carnage and brutality on an entire people without creating mortal enemies. You take their homes and take their land and blow up someone's women and children to bits and pieces those people will get revenge or die trying.

And this war is not centuries old. Idk where you're getting that from. Lol. It's all within the last 85ish years.
If those people will get revenge or die trying, it means there’s not much reason to feel sorry for them at all. They won’t stop until they get everything, and thus, there’s not a ton of reason to give them anything, I hate to say.

You can want something you’ll never get and fight forever, but that leaves very little reason for the other side to hold back.

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« Reply #32113 on: May 24, 2024, 07:33:50 PM »
Why do people pretend this about a state or two state solution.  Hamas and the Palestinians want to exterminate Jews and erase Israel from existence.   This is not complicated.  The idea that this only began in 1945 is completely illusory.

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« Reply #32114 on: May 24, 2024, 08:29:46 PM »
And this war is not centuries old. Idk where you're getting that from. Lol. It's all within the last 85ish years.
Lulzno. 

The idea that this only began in 1945 is completely illusory.
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« Reply #32115 on: May 25, 2024, 02:14:40 AM »
Popped in and saw some of our more rambunctious posters talking about Uruguay.

Did not provide motivation to see what that’s about
Nothing. It was "insert random country name here". Nothing relevant about Uruguay. 

 

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