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« Reply #30618 on: April 16, 2024, 01:11:41 PM »
Sure they are.  Having ideological differences is one of the problems of using a private militia rather than a state military, but those problems go away when united against a common enemy.  Iran helped organize the October 7th massacre and Hamas enacted it.  Iran also uses Hezbollah and a dozen other proxies to help wage its wars. 

Syria is an Iranian ally and allows Iran to use Syria as a major hub for enabling its missions in Israel.

None of this is new.

Note: I'm not saying the US should become any more engaged in this conflict than we already are, and I see reasonable cause to diminish our activities there.  I'm just pointing out that neither Israel nor Iran and its numerous allies and proxies are innocent in this.  Both have been bad actors and it's silly and naive to white-knight for one over the other.
To be clear, I am not white-knighting one or the other. The theocratic lunatics that control Iran are an abomination. Netanyahu is a corrupt fascist lunatic wannabe dictator whose grip on power depends on the continuation of war and on a coalition with the Shas party, an ultra-right wing religious party that would love to wipe out every Muslim on earth if it could. They are basically Jewish Nazis. And Netanyahu is in bed with them. Both countries are bad actors and both of them f*cking suck. And neither are worth American treasure and for damn sure are not worth a drop of American blood.

US should cut the cord already and stop giving political cover for Israeli atrocities at the UN by vetoing every single resolution, condemnation, or ceasefire put forth and tell Israel they are on their own. And if they want weapons we can SELL THEM TO THEM, not give them to them for free at the expense of the American tax payer, and those weapons sales absolutely should have conditions. Use them to conduct yourself in accordance with international law or we aren't selling you them anymore.

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« Reply #30619 on: April 16, 2024, 02:07:14 PM »
Hamas actions are not Iranian actions. That is just blatantly incorrect and false. Hamas and Iran have had many spats- they are not as closely linked as you just implied they were. Hamas = Sunni Arabs, Iranians = Shia Persians. They aren't exactly BFF's
You forget the old maxim - "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". This was certainly true with emerging World War II Powers, the USA/USSR. Not sure if it was a joint effort with the two in October. But whoever should have let sleeping dogs lie.
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« Reply #30620 on: April 16, 2024, 02:11:28 PM »
Not only did the USA/USSR pair up to fight Germany, Stalin paired up with Hitler in 1939 as well (before AHBL).  I read somewhere that German got more raw materials and support from the Soviet Union before the invasion than after.  Stalin was content to sit back and watch the western powers destroy each other.

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« Reply #30621 on: April 16, 2024, 02:11:52 PM »
Current efforts to manage plastic pollution are falling far short. Globally, less than 10% of plastic is recycled, and 32% of plastic packaging escapes collection systems.

That’s why all eyes will turn towards Ottawa, Canada this month as an intergovernmental meeting known as INC-4 convenes in hopes of advancing a legally binding global agreement to end plastic pollution. Time is ticking: Few countries have any goals to limit or reduce plastic waste, reinforcing the urgency for a more rigorous and practical approach.

Dow, the world’s third-largest plastics producer, enthusiastically supports a solution that will eliminate plastic pollution from our planet by creating a socially inclusive, circular economy for plastics that recognizes the vital role these materials play in ensuring a low-carbon future. It’s an audacious yet achievable goal. The agreement being worked out could be an incredible catalyst for change if designed well. To be effective, it will need to drive innovation, promote environmentally sound recycling, and build an inclusive financial model to enable a circular ecosystem.

The first priority is driving innovation through design. Using plastics sustainably requires making them with circularity in mind from the beginning. We must design more high-performance plastics that use fewer raw materials while maximizing durability, reusability, and recyclability. Countries can help by promoting smarter design standards and setting recycled content requirements so that waste can be more easily sorted, recycled, and put back into use.


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« Reply #30622 on: April 16, 2024, 02:17:10 PM »
I wonder what "legally binding" could mean.

The first problem with plastic recycling is separation (generally after use).  Some mass of mixed plastic types is really a mess.  You can't separate it by type, and you can only recycle usefully if its separated.  Given a mass of nearly pure PE or PP or PET, recycling is pretty easy.

One possibility is to unzip the polymer chains into the constituent original parts and go from there, but it takes energy.

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« Reply #30623 on: April 16, 2024, 02:20:15 PM »
I wonder what "legally binding" could mean.

The first problem with plastic recycling is separation (generally after use).  Some mass of mixed plastic types is really a mess.  You can't separate it by type, and you can only recycle usefully if its separated.  Given a mass of nearly pure PE or PP or PET, recycling is pretty easy.

One possibility is to unzip the polymer chains into the constituent original parts and go from there, but it takes energy.
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« Reply #30624 on: April 16, 2024, 02:21:23 PM »

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« Reply #30625 on: April 16, 2024, 02:26:08 PM »
What would be the possible negatives associated with a significant withdrawal from the world by the USA?  I'm not proposing this, I'm pondering it, but imagine the following happened, what would be some downsides?

1.  Withdrawal from every military alliance in which the US participates, including NATO.
2.  Withdrawal of troops based in South Korea/Okinawa, plus Europe/ME/wherever.
3.  Cut military budget by "half".  Maybe retain 10 AC carriers to be based on US territory, the nuclear "deterrent", subs,  smaller Army and Marine Corps and Air Force.
4.  Cut foreign aid to near zero.
5.  Withdraw from the UN, or perhaps remain for show, but don't pay the bills.  Maybe ask them to move out of NYC.


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« Reply #30626 on: April 16, 2024, 02:43:03 PM »
What would be the possible negatives associated with a significant withdrawal from the world by the USA?  I'm not proposing this, I'm pondering it, but imagine the following happened, what would be some downsides?

1.  Withdrawal from every military alliance in which the US participates, including NATO.
2.  Withdrawal of troops based in South Korea/Okinawa, plus Europe/ME/wherever.
3.  Cut military budget by "half".  Maybe retain 10 AC carriers to be based on US territory, the nuclear "deterrent", subs,  smaller Army and Marine Corps and Air Force.
4.  Cut foreign aid to near zero.
5.  Withdraw from the UN, or perhaps remain for show, but don't pay the bills.  Maybe ask them to move out of NYC.



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« Reply #30627 on: April 16, 2024, 03:05:52 PM »
was hoping to watch some Husker baseball this evening

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« Reply #30628 on: April 16, 2024, 03:12:25 PM »

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« Reply #30630 on: April 16, 2024, 03:19:10 PM »
What would be the possible negatives associated with a significant withdrawal from the world by the USA?  I'm not proposing this, I'm pondering it, but imagine the following happened, what would be some downsides?

1.  Withdrawal from every military alliance in which the US participates, including NATO.
2.  Withdrawal of troops based in South Korea/Okinawa, plus Europe/ME/wherever.
3.  Cut military budget by "half".  Maybe retain 10 AC carriers to be based on US territory, the nuclear "deterrent", subs,  smaller Army and Marine Corps and Air Force.
4.  Cut foreign aid to near zero.
5.  Withdraw from the UN, or perhaps remain for show, but don't pay the bills.  Maybe ask them to move out of NYC.


The US government did this after the end of World War I. It ended up with another full-blown shooting war on the Continent 18 years later.

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« Reply #30631 on: April 16, 2024, 03:59:35 PM »
Current efforts to manage plastic pollution are falling far short. Globally, less than 10% of plastic is recycled, and 32% of plastic packaging escapes collection systems.

That’s why all eyes will turn towards Ottawa, Canada this month as an intergovernmental meeting known as INC-4 convenes in hopes of advancing a legally binding global agreement to end plastic pollution. Time is ticking: Few countries have any goals to limit or reduce plastic waste, reinforcing the urgency for a more rigorous and practical approach.

Dow, the world’s third-largest plastics producer, enthusiastically supports a solution that will eliminate plastic pollution from our planet by creating a socially inclusive, circular economy for plastics that recognizes the vital role these materials play in ensuring a low-carbon future. It’s an audacious yet achievable goal. The agreement being worked out could be an incredible catalyst for change if designed well. To be effective, it will need to drive innovation, promote environmentally sound recycling, and build an inclusive financial model to enable a circular ecosystem.

The first priority is driving innovation through design. Using plastics sustainably requires making them with circularity in mind from the beginning. We must design more high-performance plastics that use fewer raw materials while maximizing durability, reusability, and recyclability. Countries can help by promoting smarter design standards and setting recycled content requirements so that waste can be more easily sorted, recycled, and put back into use.


https://fortune.com/2024/04/16/dow-ceo-company-major-plastic-producer-end-plastic-pollution-leadership-environment/
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