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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #126 on: November 03, 2020, 03:31:26 PM »
A hot dog is a sandwich but it's a unique enough subset to be referred to by its more specific name. 

Kinda like if someone says "I see a car" and you look up and see a Bugatti Veyron, you'd wonder why they said "car" when what they were referring to is so much more specific. 

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« Reply #127 on: November 03, 2020, 03:34:42 PM »
Speaking of sandwiches, why is this pastrami sandwich $10.79?

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« Reply #128 on: November 03, 2020, 03:34:57 PM »
Maybe it's akin to "vehicle", which encompasses cars, trucks, trains, etc.

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« Reply #129 on: November 03, 2020, 03:38:24 PM »
Also- how tone deaf does Biden have to be to go to flint with Obama to campaign. That is astounding.

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« Reply #130 on: November 03, 2020, 03:48:17 PM »
I'm not suggesting that a hot dog or hamburger don't potentially, technically fall into subsets of a broader group called sandwiches.

However, if nobody ever refers to a hot dog as a sandwich, can we really say that it's a sandwich?

People DO refer to Bugattis as cars.

But I've not once ever seen someone order a sandwich and receive a hot dog, nor heard someone pronounce "I think I'd like to have a sandwich for lunch" and then order a hot dog.  

I did however work with a guy at our BBQ restaurant, a dude who was of Mexican-American descent, who brought tacos made by his mama for lunch everyday.  When he was ready for lunch, he'd say, "Okay, it's time for my sandwich, I'll be back in a few."  

So who knows?

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« Reply #131 on: November 03, 2020, 03:49:14 PM »
I agree it's an important issue that is bothering me a lot.

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« Reply #132 on: November 03, 2020, 03:50:39 PM »
Jus got back from voting. Maybe waited 1 minute in line.

Was told 75% of Lee County voted early.
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« Reply #133 on: November 03, 2020, 03:53:51 PM »
I agree it's an important issue that is bothering me a lot.
Heh.  Just looking for a distraction from politics.  I don't really feel strongly about it.

But I will say that if a friend told me, "Hey, don't get anything for lunch, I just went by this new sandwich place and ordered some kick-ass sandwiches and I'm bringing you one" and then it turned out to be a hot dog?  I'd be pretty pissed off.

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« Reply #134 on: November 03, 2020, 03:55:13 PM »
Speaking of sandwiches, why is this pastrami sandwich $10.79?
It's the Bugatti Veyron of sammiches
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« Reply #135 on: November 03, 2020, 03:58:39 PM »
Maybe if it was a really really good hotdog....

I'm sorta stuck on the Willy Philly, which is a burrito, which is a sandwich.  And really good, for $8.75.  Plus tax.

Tax here is nearly 9%.

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« Reply #136 on: November 03, 2020, 04:00:40 PM »
I had to drop a check off at the brokerage so we took in an early lunch at our favorite cafe.  I often order smoked salmon benedict there, and did this time.

The cute young server asked me if I wanted my salmon "medium".  I thought I did not hear correctly through the mask.  She repeated it.  I looked confused and then explained the salmon was smoked, so it wasn't cooked.  She said "Oh, sorry, I'm fairly new here and still learning."  No kidding.

Well, after she left the wife went on a RANT about how the cute young thing was VOTING.  I explained to the wife some of the history in the US with things like literacy tests and voting and how a fair number of illiterate people vote legally.  They get a card with the boxes in the right places and vote accordingly.  The wife was ... um, well, not very happy.

Later two men sit down at a table ten feet away, fine, but one of them is wearing a fully on respirator.  OK, fine, he's being careful, but he's DINING in an outdoor cafe, and takes it off of course.  Why wear a respirator walking down the sidewalk and then dine at an outdoor cafe?

Maybe we should have a system where "we" don't vote directly for President, we vote for someone to represent us who actually knows a bit, can read, doesn't wear a respirator, and knows that smoked salmon won't be cooked in the kitchen.  The, later, THEY could vote for President, say mid-December.
So this got me thinking about a couple things. 

The first: This salmon
This feels, maybe a matter of experience or class or something else. I know what lox are, but didn't know how combustable combines were until reading a twitter thread (the answer is very). It's not ideal, but that might be experience. If she's a 19-year-old from Jacksonville, Ga., who knows how many restaurants have salmon at all, let along smoked. (I don't think I'm often asked if I want rare salmon, either)

And we could change it around and a New Yorker is wondering why a Georgian who doesn't know about salmon should vote, it takes on a different tone, and drops into a different part of the culture war. Anyway, we as a society decide that inexperienced people or people with bad judgment are considered adults. (the literacy tests, maybe now would be fine, though obviously the history is ugly as all get-out)

As for the second, system where we don't vote directly. It's interesting because parts of it already exist, even in some backwards ways. We have electors, who in theory are a buffer, though there would be hell to pay if they acted as such. We also have parties that to a degree play a large role in picking who we can realistically vote for. And if we voted for smart folks who then voted, we'd just get a kind of amplified version party politics. 

You could go parliament style, though if it's geography-based, you end up with weird geographic issues unless it's static (like our states) or underhanded tricks. If it's party based, you end up with something like Israel, which is pure in a way, but also recycles pols in an absurd way.

I wish there was a way to structure in good intentions and ability to carry them through, but I don't think there is. 

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« Reply #137 on: November 03, 2020, 04:01:44 PM »
Maybe if it was a really really good hotdog....

I'm sorta stuck on the Willy Philly, which is a burrito, which is a sandwich.  And really good, for $8.75.  Plus tax.

Tax here is nearly 9%.
I don't know what this is, but I like the idea.

Ever had an Indian food burrito? Real good, though the places with them are often overpriced, unfortunately. Wouldn't be too hard to make, I suppose. 

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« Reply #138 on: November 03, 2020, 04:02:59 PM »
Jus got back from voting. Maybe waited 1 minute in line.

Was told 75% of Lee County voted early.
That's good. I stood in line for about 45 minutes a few weeks back. 

Local place had lines of 1-1.5 hours before work and I bet will be a mess right after. Ghost town in between. Not catering to work-a-day folks like you'd hope. 

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« Reply #139 on: November 03, 2020, 04:16:35 PM »
Heh.  Just looking for a distraction from politics.  I don't really feel strongly about it.

But I will say that if a friend told me, "Hey, don't get anything for lunch, I just went by this new sandwich place and ordered some kick-ass sandwiches and I'm bringing you one" and then it turned out to be a hot dog?  I'd be pretty pissed off.
If someone brought me a really kick-ass hot dog, my anger would quickly dissipate given that it was merely over nomenclature.

I mean, do you really get pissed off when people bring you delicious food just because they explained it badly?

 

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