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Re: Restaurants
« Reply #42 on: Today at 09:47:41 AM »
The do fly the fish in, flash frozen.  The Oceanaire fish I had was definitely frozen.  And fish that's been on a plane even cold for 8 hours isn't really fresh.  Then you have another 2 hours from airport to restaurant, and then it sits there for however long.

And oddly enough, Hawaii doesn't have much fishing, the waters are too deep.  When we visited, I thought I'd find good seafood there, but never have.  It's the same as here pretty much.  I found some ahi at a grocery they said was fresh and it may have been.

I was told that as soon as the catch comes on a boat, it gets frozen, immediately.  The only exception, pretty much, is when a restaurant has its own fleet, they go out, collect seafood, and chill it, and return directly to the restaurant.  (Aside from lobster etc.).


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« Reply #43 on: Today at 10:04:42 AM »
I had some great Poke in Hawaii
everything is relative

also the best calamari 

Diners and dives often show places that go to the docks in the morning to pick out fresh fish
or have relations with captains of fishing boats
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« Reply #44 on: Today at 10:09:50 AM »
Roy's says they fly in fish from Hawaii daily

not sure how true that might be

the Oceanaire in Minneapolis states this as well
I've had some stuff there that I think is very good
Salmon?
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Re: Restaurants
« Reply #45 on: Today at 10:15:29 AM »
One basic reason I think restaurants in France are mostly  better than here is that the proprietor often goes out early in the morning to collect "fresh" food items.  On the coasts, it may be seafood, but even in Rambouillet, I saw an impressive local market with two large fresh (?) fish vendors.  And of course they get real fresh bread.  The bread isn't at all like what you get at Subway (duh).  And it's a good sign the meal is going to be great when they bring out the bread after you sit.  I think this is the case in Italy and Spain and Greece as well.

They don't rely on "Sysco" for their food, and it matters.  But it's a ton of extra work.  Now I'm hungry.

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« Reply #46 on: Today at 10:18:16 AM »
One basic reason I think restaurants in France are mostly  better than here is that the proprietor often goes out early in the morning to collect "fresh" food items.  On the coasts, it may be seafood, but even in Rambouillet, I saw an impressive local market with two large fresh (?) fish vendors.  And of course they get real fresh bread.  The bread isn't at all like what you get at Subway (duh).  And it's a good sign the meal is going to be great when they bring out the bread after you sit.  I think this is the case in Italy and Spain and Greece as well.

They don't rely on "Sysco" for their food, and it matters.  But it's a ton of extra work.  Now I'm hungry.
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« Reply #47 on: Today at 11:54:52 AM »
I would never, ever, EVER get into the restaurant business (again).

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« Reply #48 on: Today at 12:12:24 PM »
I thought about it for a minute, with a buddy of mine. Fresh fish caught on our boats, in the Keys. The busiest time of the day is exactly when I do not want to work so that one minute thought was over.
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« Reply #49 on: Today at 12:31:14 PM »
I had a one percent interest in a nice place that didn't survive 2008.  I got a food credit there each year, so it sort of paid for some of my investment, but I lost money overall.

We had a chef for a while who was excellent, and the replacements turned out to be so so.

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« Reply #50 on: Today at 12:52:31 PM »
I think every major and most minor seafood places use frozen seafood these days even if they are on the coast.  It could be they simply can't buy anything commercial that wasn't frozen.  Everything comes from Sysco.

I know an oyster house in Hilton Head that has their own trawlers and their oysters are good.

I used to chuckle at seeing Red Lobsters in Florida.


Maybe not anymore.


Red Lobster files for bankruptcy days after closing dozens of locations across the US (msn.com)
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« Reply #51 on: Today at 12:57:31 PM »
Even stranger was seeing Red Lobster in Maine...

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Re: Restaurants
« Reply #52 on: Today at 01:14:24 PM »
I've seen Starbucks in Paris.

Copenhagen had any number of KFCs.

I didn't see a Benihana in Tokyo though.

Kind of interesting, we have chain restaurants for ethnic foods from Mexico, Italy, Japan, Brazil, China ... but that's about it?

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« Reply #53 on: Today at 01:36:13 PM »


I've seen Starbucks in Paris.

Copenhagen had any number of KFCs.

I didn't see a Benihana in Tokyo though.

Kind of interesting, we have chain restaurants for ethnic foods from Mexico, Italy, Japan, Brazil, China ... but that's about it?
La Madelaine is a French chain restaurant (at least, by intent).

Around here t
here are a couple of regional chains for Indian food, one is called Tarka and one is called Masala Wok.


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« Reply #54 on: Today at 02:50:57 PM »
When I interned in London, one of the other interns went to a trivia night with her co-workers, and won a $100 gift card to TGI Fridays.  We were laughing that it would feed us for the rest of the summer.  But the only one in London was in Leisester Square, with a 2 hour wait, and the exact same menu for about 3x the price

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« Reply #55 on: Today at 07:14:37 PM »
In Jacksonville, we'd drive over to Miss Becky's Seafood in Mayport.  It was a shack on the water and they took the seafood from the boat out back into the shack for display.  

I was too young to appreciate how privileged I was, lol.
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