header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Rankings ... ugh

 (Read 82255 times)

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25414
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2086 on: Today at 08:07:44 AM »
Life is what you make it.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71963
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2087 on: Today at 08:13:01 AM »
I'm fairly amused that someone expects me to watch some video I find boring, so I would "do better".  It's not remotely about doing better, or worse. It's MY time obviously, I choose how to spend it for the most part.  I don't expect folks to watch videos I surface if they don't want to, and I surely expect nobody can DO anything if there is some problem, for the most part.  A few times there can be a plea for charity, fine with me.

I might as well watch soccer, or two Tech students in a bar trying to score.

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25414
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2088 on: Today at 08:14:55 AM »
I'm fairly amused that someone expects me to watch some video I find boring, so I would "do better".  It's not remotely about doing better, or worse. It's MY time obviously, I choose how to spend it for the most part.  I don't expect folks to watch videos I surface if they don't want to, and I surely expect nobody can DO anything if there is some problem, for the most part.  A few times there can be a plea for charity, fine with me.

I might as well watch soccer, or two Tech students in a bar trying to score.
I find it condescending. 
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71963
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2089 on: Today at 08:31:12 AM »
I used to give "talks" that were boring.  I knew they were boring, nearly all talks of that nature were boring.  Folks struggled to pay attention.

We had one dude come in from another company give a talk about their product, whatever it was, and he "spiced it up" with photos of scantily clad women, with comments about them.  The thing is, we were a very straight laced outfit, and had female coworkers in the audience.  One of them made a stink about it.  I never knew ths whole story, but it went on for some time, and the VP of that other company finally wrote a letter of apology to us that was shared widely, I suppose as an attempt to make it go away, which it did.  But it still made the lunch time convo for some time.


Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71963
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2090 on: Today at 09:04:43 AM »


I don't understand how folks rank coaches, other than by level of success.  Why is Lea the "worst" coach?  He might be a great coach, but at Vandy, well ... you can only beat Texas.

Maybe Sam Pittman at UGA would do as well or better than Smart.  I think Eli D. is a coach who has done very well with relatively little, I'd have him higher.  DeBoer?  Who knows?

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17762
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2091 on: Today at 09:11:14 AM »
Honestly, I watched and found it entertaining. But ultimately I didn't find that it found concrete policy ideas to fix anything. The few thrown out at the end were mostly political non-starters. Including means-testing Social Security, which I am in favor of but will never happen.

It seemed more along the lines of Don Quixote tilting against windmills than anything meaningful.

I don't know, I got stuck on the first point, that college is getting too expensive but that we also need to make the top colleges more accessible.

Not only do I fundamentally disagree with this, but I believe pretty much the opposite.

Our university system is broken because we're using it as a de facto vocational clearinghouse for basic classes of jobs, and it was never intended for that.

Instead we should focus youth on attending ACTUAL vocational schools and learning trades.  These are high paying jobs that don't require mountains of debt to obtain.

CD often points out that in Europe, only something like 30% of kids go on to college.  The rest go into trades, vocational training for hospitality, and dozens of other more suitable options for people who don't need a college education for the jobs they ultimately end up obtaining.  That's the kind of ratio we should be shooting for here in the US.

We need fewer colleges, not more.  We need fewer students attending colleges, not more.



« Last Edit: Today at 09:16:55 AM by utee94 »

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37722
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2092 on: Today at 09:23:30 AM »
yes, if college is too expensive then why are record numbers of diplomas being printed?
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37722
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2093 on: Today at 09:25:12 AM »
I find it condescending.
people that care about the future are noble, the old and rich are lazy.
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71963
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2094 on: Today at 09:30:41 AM »
CD often points out that in Europe, only something like 30% of kids go on to college.  The rest go into trades, vocational training for hospitality, and dozens of other more suitable options for people who don't need a college education for the jobs they ultimately end up obtaining.  That's the kind of ratio we should be shooting for here in the US.
It's a bit higher, usually, 35-38%, but a bit over half what we send to college.  I think it's a salient point, which I why I post it over and over.

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71963
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2095 on: Today at 12:33:01 PM »
+


  • Texas
  • California
  • Florida
  • Georgia
  • North Carolina


FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37722
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2096 on: Today at 12:36:39 PM »
I agree with the Texas thing

Especially in and around Dallas and the entire length of I-35 in the state
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17762
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2097 on: Today at 12:39:40 PM »
Huh.  I don't consider any of the highways around here to be particularly dangerous.  Annoying and slow and congested with traffic, definitely.  But all those slow-downs are what prevent them from being particularly dangerous.


Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71963
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #2098 on: Today at 12:41:19 PM »
I've driven a fair bit in CA including in LA and SF and SD and in the mountains, I didn't consider anything notably dangerous.

But, the rankings could be based on thin differences.

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.