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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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FearlessF

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46494 on: July 07, 2025, 05:54:53 PM »
I imagine what most liberals would want would be something similar to this...........


1%: $0 to $23,850
8%: $23,851 to $96,950
29%: $96,951 to $206,700
37%: $206,701 to $394,600
45%: $394,601 to $501,050
55%: $501,051 to $751,600
69%: $751,601 or more

you know....... tax the filthy rich
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46495 on: July 07, 2025, 06:18:38 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 07, 2025, 02:24:06 PM
A simple concept that hardly anyone understands.

In our peak earning year, we paid $80K+ in taxes and used no services (except roads).

Our unfair share was paid.
You are delusional.
Who patrolled your community as you slept?
You didn't dial it, but what number would you have dialed to save your ass in an emergency?
What entity educated everyone around you in order to contribute to a pleasant community of businesses, customers, and public service?


Used no services my ass.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46496 on: July 07, 2025, 07:11:45 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 07, 2025, 05:54:53 PM
I imagine what most liberals would want would be something similar to this...........


1%: $0 to $23,850
8%: $23,851 to $96,950
29%: $96,951 to $206,700
37%: $206,701 to $394,600
45%: $394,601 to $501,050
55%: $501,051 to $751,600
69%: $751,601 or more

you know....... tax the filthy rich

This would drive revenue down.   Nobody would want to be productive to then give the government 70% of their earnings.  You would actually keep more( or close to it) by earning less.  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46497 on: July 07, 2025, 07:12:29 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 07, 2025, 05:16:03 PM
And even if there had been, the NWS still appropriately issued a warning with proper level of severity ahead of time with enough notice to save everyone's life had the warnings been heard, and heeded.  It's not the job of the NWS to ensure that local authorities are tuned in and paying attention, nor is it their job to ensure their warnings are heeded and acted upon.
Amen.  The idiots that are trying to make this an issue are just that. Idiots. They don’t even believe it to be true.   
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46498 on: July 07, 2025, 07:14:42 PM »
I love that the general response to having rich people actually pay taxes is "nah, it wouldn't work."  

What if people making $40K replied that way?  
Stop giving people a pass who skirt the system.  Fix the system.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46499 on: July 07, 2025, 07:16:15 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 07, 2025, 07:14:42 PM
I love that the general response to having rich people actually pay taxes is "nah, it wouldn't work." 

What if people making $40K replied that way? 
Stop giving people a pass who skirt the system.  Fix the system.
Not giving anybody a pass. And I agree, fix the system. But that won’t do it.   Do the math. At the rates he listed somebody making 751,000 would keep the exact same amount as somebody making 550,000.   People would just be asking for demotions, being less productive where they get paid bonuses, or quit being productive when they reach the 550 level.  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46500 on: July 07, 2025, 07:22:10 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 07, 2025, 07:11:45 PM
This would drive revenue down.  Nobody would want to be productive to then give the government 70% of their earnings.  You would actually keep more( or close to it) by earning less. 
I'm not so sure.  Folks seem to like living in the states.
I know big money folks in Europe moved around a bit to avoid high tax rates.  But, some didn't move very far, similar to someone moving from Cali to Texas or less.  And some moved to the USA.
many folks have threatened to leave the USA over political issues, not many have.
It may be something to try if things get bad enough.  Sooner or later, someone is gonna have to pay back a large share of the deficit.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46501 on: July 07, 2025, 07:28:57 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 07, 2025, 07:22:10 PM
I'm not so sure.  Folks seem to like living in the states.
I know big money folks in Europe moved around a bit to avoid high tax rates.  But, some didn't move very far, similar to someone moving from Cali to Texas or less.  And some moved to the USA.
many folks have threatened to leave the USA over political issues, not many have.
It may be something to try if things get bad enough.  Sooner or later, someone is gonna have to pay back a large share of the deficit.

Yep. It will be our grandchildren.  

That’s the someone.  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46502 on: July 07, 2025, 08:27:11 PM »
A certain portion of our leaders only care about the now.  Their lives.  And couldn't care less if the earth exploded the day after their deaths.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46503 on: July 07, 2025, 08:36:36 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 07, 2025, 08:27:11 PM
A certain portion of our leaders only care about the now.  Their lives.  And couldn't care less if the earth exploded the day after their deaths. 
On this I agree 100%. 

Some of the worst are what passes for "moderates". These are generally Politicians who vote with D's to increase spending then turn around and vote with R's to cut taxes. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46504 on: July 07, 2025, 08:40:32 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 07, 2025, 07:14:42 PM
I love that the general response to having rich people actually pay taxes is "nah, it wouldn't work." 

What if people making $40K replied that way? 
Stop giving people a pass who skirt the system.  Fix the system.
I don't think anyone is giving them a pass. There are at least three issues. 

The first, which I've covered in great detail is that "the rich" are much harder to pin down because of the flexibility that they enjoy.

The second is that hitting "the rich" harder tends to slow down the economy because it reduces the incentive to take risks. 

The third is that "the rich" aren't a big enough block to raise all that much revenue from anyway.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46505 on: July 07, 2025, 08:48:56 PM »
Isn't anyone old enough to remember the obscenely high marginal federal income tax rates for nearly every year since WWII.  Talking 70-91%.  Between 1945 and 1981.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46506 on: July 07, 2025, 08:51:56 PM »
yup, deficit wasn't out of control
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46507 on: July 07, 2025, 09:42:04 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 07, 2025, 08:51:56 PM
yup, deficit wasn't out of control
Yes but, revenues weren't appreciably higher then:https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ockN
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