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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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utee94

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42490 on: March 03, 2025, 08:55:34 AM »
Well I trust twitter more than the AHA so I guess I'll have to cut the seed oils now.  More's the pity.

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« Reply #42491 on: March 03, 2025, 08:56:27 AM »
seed oil???

WTF?
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42492 on: March 03, 2025, 09:12:08 AM »
My heart health handbook says seed oils are fine.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42493 on: March 03, 2025, 09:13:54 AM »
I use Canola oil
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« Reply #42494 on: March 03, 2025, 09:23:58 AM »
I use Canola oil
Your sex life is of no consequence here. 😂
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42495 on: March 03, 2025, 10:28:09 AM »
He needs to acknowledge the difference between proven vaccines, which have been thrown under the bus by fake science, that every school district has required for generations.  And what are new science, which no school district requires.  All of our kids are fully vaccinated.  and per pediatricians instructions, did not get a covid booster this year.  They could have. he said it probably wouldn't hurt, but he didnt think it would help.  I think having him draw a line between proven vaccines and new vaccines would do wonders.  If you have a good doctor, and ask the right questions, you can get those answers.  the problem is most people get their medical answers from Twitter.  So RFK needs to do his job and differenciate between the two and recommend talking to your doctor

Having worked in the medical field and being married to a primary provider, my pushback on this is that people don't know if they have a good doctor.  Most people aren't in a position to evaluate that.  And even when a doctor is a good one (which, most of them are, I think) the range of opinions on quite a number of things varies wildly.  You could ask one good doctor about something and get one piece of advice, another person asks another good doctor the same question and gets another piece of advice.  Then those two get on the internet and yell at each other, both claiming that their doctor told them so and they know what they're talking about. 

All that to say, there are a variety of reasons you'll get 5 different stories asking 5 different doctors something.  You can also get the exact, same, stock answer to something, and that usually means they don't know much about it and they go with whatever party line has been handed to them by some three-letter entity.  I've noticed when doctors have experience with something, their opinions tend to vary more.  Almost no doctors have any first-hand knowledge of vaccines, having done zero research or anything adjacent to it in their careers.  That's not a career track hardly any doctors get on.  They tend to give pretty stock answers about vaccines, and if you ever get the chance to press them, they'll tell you they're just following what's more or less mandated for them to say.  Alternatively, ask them about procedures in their specialty, and quite a large percentage of them will tell the "standard literature" to f*** right off if they disagree with it.  They've seen what they've seen and they know what they know, and they don't mince words about it.  

None of that is to say that people shouldn't trust their doctors.  Just be aware that the world is complicated.  The doctor I worked for was also our county's Health Authority during the pandemic.  Her clinic got a lot of calls and I had to keep on top of all the stock answers to the most common questions because we got those questions constantly.  We told people exactly what the CDC told us to tell people.  That was basically her job, and ours, by proxy.  She didn't have any first hand knowledge of anything going on with vaccine or virus research, although she was a great doctor imo.  These days she has treated so many patients who have dealt with cases related to covid and vaccine stuff, and she has different opinions than she used to.  Different opinions about the CDC than she used to, it seems, though she is a good example of how many nuanced positions there are to find between "Vaccines bad, CDC evil" and "Blindly believe every health organization."

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« Reply #42496 on: March 03, 2025, 10:33:56 AM »
since I'm lazy, I'll just take the advice of my doctor

and hope for the best  (there's no "fingers crossed" emoji)
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« Reply #42497 on: March 03, 2025, 10:34:21 AM »
I was gone all Friday and all weekend, and you goobers still haven't convinced utee94 that beans can go in chili. 

Guess our war will continue ad infinitum, and personal attacks will result in multiple time outs.  

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« Reply #42498 on: March 03, 2025, 10:35:35 AM »
I was gone all Friday and all weekend, and you goobers still haven't convinced utee94 that beans can go in chili. 

Guess our war will continue ad infinitum, and personal attacks will result in multiple time outs. 
You just made the list.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42499 on: March 03, 2025, 10:36:59 AM »
Which list?  There are lists I'd like to be on, and some I wouldn't.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42500 on: March 03, 2025, 10:37:02 AM »
Your doctor is one resource to be used, there are others on the Internet I find credible.  At times, the "answer" really is "kinda maybe".

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« Reply #42501 on: March 03, 2025, 10:41:22 AM »
I'd have to be pretty derned interested and/or worried to delve into the internet and a bunch of other sources than my doc.

because, I could waste a lotta time and effort to find out the "answer" really is "kinda maybe"

I'll just continue to lean on the opinions of the smart fellers here.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42502 on: March 03, 2025, 10:42:48 AM »
I use Canola oil
Your sex life is of no consequence here. 😂

Really leave the gun take the canola.....let me check my sources on that
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« Reply #42503 on: March 03, 2025, 10:44:23 AM »
I'll just continue to lean on the opinions of the smart fellers here.
And yet you continue to swill Budwater,well saki really
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