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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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bayareabadger

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41972 on: February 18, 2025, 12:20:54 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 18, 2025, 12:09:01 PM
I was exercising. Just ate shitty and smoked. It almost got me.

Now I plan to be a pain in the ass until I'm 100.
Smoking is a killer. 

My diet is in a nebulous zone of not being particularly bad, give or take a lot of sugar. And if I find out diet soda causes cancer, I’m a goner. 

But the doc keeps giving me a clean bill of health and I keep running, so seems mostly ok. 
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« Reply #41973 on: February 18, 2025, 12:31:23 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2025, 10:26:22 AM
I’m sort of fascinated by some of the resistance to the weight loss drugs. In part because it feels like people assign sort of a moral element to it, as if there’s something sort of not respectable about losing weight that way.
I know people who have take off a tremendous amount of weight on Zepbound and Ozempic and so far kept it off with little side effects.  Personally I find northing wrong with it. If that is what it takes to get to a healthy weight good for you. 
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« Reply #41974 on: February 18, 2025, 12:34:21 PM »
The ones that got me are highlighted by a red dot.

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« Reply #41975 on: February 18, 2025, 12:36:12 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on February 18, 2025, 11:00:21 AM
A lot of things go over your head. It’s ok.

The resistance to these new GLP-1 weight loss drugs are the litany of very real & dangerous side effects, their ridiculous cost, and the abuse and misuse of them.

They were designed to help with extremely overweight people with diabetes and you have people who get on them to lose 10 or 15 lbs and stay on them indefinitely so they won’t gain weight.

You could make an argument for the former using the drugs, but the latter- um hell no.

People in this country will literally do fucking anything to avoid personal responsibility and discipline. It’s fucking amazing. Losing weight is pretty simple. Eat less, move your ass. Anyone can do it. It ain’t rocket science, you don’t need Elon Musk’s brain to do it.
Once you have developed insulin resistence it can become very hard to lose weight even with eating next to nothing. CICO works but it also has limitations.  The problem is keeping it off. Your hormone mix causes your body to have a "set" weight and it takes quite a bit to get the thermostat to reset to a lower weight.  Having some help from a drug can be a good thing. 
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« Reply #41976 on: February 18, 2025, 12:40:37 PM »
Quote from: Riffraft on February 18, 2025, 12:36:12 PM
Once you have developed insulin resistence it can become very hard to lose weight even with eating next to nothing. CICO works but it also has limitations.  The problem is keeping it off. Your hormone mix causes your body to have a "set" weight and it takes quite a bit to get the thermostat to reset to a lower weight.  Having some help from a drug can be a good thing.
Being on it permanently like many are doing can be a bad thing.
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« Reply #41977 on: February 18, 2025, 01:08:59 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 18, 2025, 12:34:21 PM
The ones that got me are highlighted by a red dot.



First list I've seen that didn't list "unleaded" pencil.  
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« Reply #41978 on: February 18, 2025, 01:27:03 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 18, 2025, 12:09:01 PM
I was exercising. Just ate shitty and smoked. It almost got me.

Now I plan to be a pain in the ass until I'm 100.
I'm shooting for 85
hopefully, when I get to 80, I'll extend my goal
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« Reply #41979 on: February 18, 2025, 02:21:01 PM »
Generally speaking, I don't have any major issues with people taking weight loss drugs.  I just feel like I need to do something on my own, that I have to put effort into rather than rely on some pill.  I'm also slightly concerned that in ~10 or 20 years it will come out that the pills have been found to cause some condition that would be really bad.  
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« Reply #41980 on: February 18, 2025, 02:36:48 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 18, 2025, 12:11:58 PM
I can't help but laugh at Euros when they choose to lecture Americans on such things.  For the most part their politics and policies are an absolute mess, and they come crying to the nasty old Americans for either military or economic protection at least once every couple of decades, but yeah it's the USA that's causing the problems. 

LMGDMFSBAO.


Seems like the new vice-president had some similar things to tell them recently, and they apparently didn't take it well.  
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« Reply #41981 on: February 18, 2025, 02:39:59 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 18, 2025, 12:09:01 PM
Now I plan to be a pain in the ass until I'm 100.

I have to live to 100 so I can keep working and dig myself out of the hole that was my 30's and totally wrecked my retirement path.  

I mean, I could just die working at a regular age and then I wouldn't worry about retirement finances, but who doesn't want to have a few years free of the grind before we kick it?  
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« Reply #41982 on: February 18, 2025, 03:34:43 PM »
Here's an example of taxpayer-funded silliness. 

I currently work at a taxpayer-(partially)funded institution.  I've had jobs before where the computers were locked down and you couldn't install your own software.  I get that.  Ours are locked down to where we can't even update programs when they require it (or if you don't have to update, but the update prompts are perpetual and annoying).

I work on the same floor as the IT guys, and they're crawling everywhere like ants.  I don't wish anyone in particular ill will, but no telling how many tickets they get for software updates, and I think that our number of IT personnel wouldn't be required if people could simply click "Update Now" for themselves. 

Meanwhile I sit here on the gub'ment dime, unable to do anything, because the 180,000 IT guys we have all forgot to install Adobe Reader on my laptop when it was issued.  Like......can't you authorize us to install some things?  And the sheer insanity of waiting for them again to come update something that's already installed......I'd rather not think about it.  
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« Reply #41983 on: February 18, 2025, 03:48:37 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on February 18, 2025, 02:21:01 PM
Generally speaking, I don't have any major issues with people taking weight loss drugs.  I just feel like I need to do something on my own, that I have to put effort into rather than rely on some pill.  I'm also slightly concerned that in ~10 or 20 years it will come out that the pills have been found to cause some condition that would be really bad.
the GLP-1 drugs have a ridiculous set of side effects and the truth is we don't really know what the long term effects of the drugs are. and again the major problem with the drug is the abuse by people who really don't need to be on it in the first place. people are buying the shit compounded and who knows what is in it- a lot of it is fake and they dose themselves and abuse the dosage- whereas if you're getting the branded prescription shit Moujarno, WeGovy, Ozempic- they are pre-made shots with recommended dosages. you have people buying little viles of the shit compounded online from a pharmacy in China probably and using their own needles and injecting themselves with more than they should at a time. just so they can lose 10 or 15 pounds. it's just a really terrible idea all around.

instead of trying to solve the very hard problem of America's food system the great idea is hey let's just get everyone on these drugs that cost a fortune and guarantee the pharmaceutical companies even more enormous profits! 
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« Reply #41984 on: February 18, 2025, 03:53:29 PM »
Quote from: Riffraft on February 18, 2025, 12:36:12 PM
Once you have developed insulin resistence it can become very hard to lose weight even with eating next to nothing. CICO works but it also has limitations.  The problem is keeping it off. Your hormone mix causes your body to have a "set" weight and it takes quite a bit to get the thermostat to reset to a lower weight.  Having some help from a drug can be a good thing.
yeah I get it. and I'm not even against the drug if used on people that actually need it. I am against the obvious abuse that is going on right now with it and just handing it out willy nilly to everyone and anyone just because they want to lose 10 or 20 pounds quickly because they are too lazy to just change diet habits and go on a 30 minute walk every day. cut out sugar completely and stop drinking crap like soda, go for daily walks, and try to be in a 400-500 calorie deficit and you'll lose that weight in 3-4 months naturally.....
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« Reply #41985 on: February 18, 2025, 03:54:36 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on February 18, 2025, 02:36:48 PM

Seems like the new vice-president had some similar things to tell them recently, and they apparently didn't take it well.
that was one of the greatest speeches by a US politician ever. it was truly glorious.

but what JD Vance is leaving out- is that it is the United States of America and the Biden administration which has pushed things like internet censorship, deindustrialization, energy reliance on US, and ever greater dependence on US military in Europe. All of the worst policies in Europe were pushed on them by their masters in Washington over the past several decades. And the corrupt useless spineless pushovers that they are just went right along with it.
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