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Gigem

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« Reply #37982 on: October 15, 2024, 10:34:54 AM »
I'd echo @bayareabadger and say that I'm not sure most of them actually believe that, but it's all down to the way the battle lines are drawn.

There's one side that says it's always murder and must be outlawed entirely. And every attempt to restrict is one step in that direction, but they view it as only a step, not a destination. The destination is no legal abortions, ever.

The other side knows the first side's intentions, and refuse to ever let them have a single step because they know that the other side views it as only a step. So ANY capitulation at all is unacceptable to them, because they know it's not a standing compromise that will be achieved--the other side will take that step and then advocate for the next one. So if you want to preserve the compromise position, you have to be hard-line at defending a place far beyond the compromise position.
Agreed.  Myself, I don't even much think about it as an issue that's important to me.  I'd just assume let all the women get together and vote on what they need to do and I'll stay in my lane.  

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« Reply #37983 on: October 15, 2024, 10:48:47 AM »
Agreed.  Myself, I don't even much think about it as an issue that's important to me.  I'd just assume let all the women get together and vote on what they need to do and I'll stay in my lane. 
I'm mostly with you on this. For the record, I'm adopted, so I'm kinda in the lane. I'm glad to be around.
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« Reply #37984 on: October 15, 2024, 10:56:50 AM »
It is, which is why I cited it.

I just don't think that I can trust data coming out of the CDC. They are forever tainted.
newsflash: every single government agency is tainted, not just the CDC. every single one has been captured, tainted, bastardized, perverted. never ceases to amaze me that the gullible masses actually ever thought for a millisecond that the government is some well intentioned, virtuous, omnipotent, holy entity that does nothing but good....that they are all gumdrops and rainbows and lollipops! they are nothing but a collection of morons with great power- who abuse said power.

US federal government = mostly nothing but unelected bureaucrats who are for the most wholly corrupt mostly stupid people who are obsessed with obtaining power & status, enriching & protecting themselves & those in their circles & the masters they serve which are the largest US based multi-national corporations.

the single largest problem we have in the United States is our federal government. we need someone who will take a chain saw to that motherfucker and fire errrrrybody. dismantle, shut down, and gut every three letter agency filled with unelected bureaucrats and start over.

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« Reply #37985 on: October 15, 2024, 11:02:30 AM »
newsflash: every single government agency is tainted, not just the CDC. every single one has been captured, tainted, bastardized, perverted. never ceases to amaze me that the gullible masses actually ever thought for a millisecond that the government is some well intentioned, virtuous, omnipotent, holy entity that does nothing but good....that they are all gumdrops and rainbows and lollipops! they are nothing but a collection of morons with great power- who abuse said power.

US federal government = mostly nothing but unelected bureaucrats who are for the most wholly corrupt mostly stupid people who are obsessed with obtaining power & status, enriching & protecting themselves & those in their circles & the masters they serve which are the largest US based multi-national corporations.

the single largest problem we have in the United States is our federal government. we need someone who will take a chain saw to that motherfucker and fire errrrrybody. dismantle, shut down, and gut every three letter agency filled with unelected bureaucrats and start over.
I don't know where you're getting this trash, but you need to stop giving that source any attention.

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« Reply #37986 on: October 15, 2024, 11:04:48 AM »
 dismantle, shut down, and gut every three letter agency filled with unelected bureaucrats and start over.
For the majority of them, no need to start over.  They are redundant, superfluous, and unnecessary.  Return all of that governance to the state and municipal levels where it can be (slightly) more efficiently managed.

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« Reply #37987 on: October 15, 2024, 11:05:57 AM »
I don't know where you're getting this trash, but you need to stop giving that source any attention.
jesus fucking christ.....case in point....America is FUCKED. nothing but propagandized fucking idiots in this country.

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« Reply #37988 on: October 15, 2024, 11:07:00 AM »
For the majority of them, no need to start over.  They are redundant, superfluous, and unnecessary.  Return all of that governance to the state and municipal levels where it can be (slightly) more efficiently managed.
this is true because there are SO fucking many of them. 

but some of the major ones....need to be NUKED and started over completely. Looking at you CIA/FBI. 

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« Reply #37989 on: October 15, 2024, 11:09:25 AM »
IRS.
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« Reply #37990 on: October 15, 2024, 11:22:08 AM »
NAMBLA

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« Reply #37991 on: October 15, 2024, 11:30:11 AM »
NAMBLA
I have no problem with Marlon Brando look-alikes.

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« Reply #37992 on: October 15, 2024, 11:38:52 AM »
I have no problem with Marlon Brando look-alikes.
Depends on the era

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« Reply #37993 on: October 15, 2024, 11:49:59 AM »
What the data says about abortion in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

1% in the third term (21 weeks) and 6% in the second term (14-20 weeks).

7% after clear viability is too much, unless the mother's life was in danger.

Are these numbers real? They are from the CDC, so...
I’d be interested in the health numbers, especially for that one percent. Carrying a baby through trimester two and then willingly choosing not to have it seems like a relative rarity.

Three months feels like enough, though if there was a little buffer, I wouldn’t see that as all that bad. 

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« Reply #37994 on: October 15, 2024, 02:52:30 PM »
I've seen posts on different sites (Reddit among others) where the mother found out the father was cheating or some similar circumstances and aborted very late in the pregnancy.  Real or not, I have no idea, but it seems plausible for at least a few cases.  Husband left, no job, no security, or they lost their job, mental health took a turn for the worse, lots of reasons why are given.  I am pretty sure it does probably happen, but who knows how often?  

For those not familiar, Reddit leans very far left.  

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« Reply #37995 on: October 15, 2024, 03:01:47 PM »
Adoption would be good. The line is out the door for people wanting to adopt children.
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