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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37240 on: September 18, 2024, 08:39:36 AM »
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« Reply #37241 on: September 18, 2024, 09:32:34 PM »
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« Reply #37242 on: September 19, 2024, 10:16:42 AM »
https://nypost.com/2024/09/18/us-news/fed-chair-jerome-powell-blames-influx-of-illegal-migrants-for-rising-unemployment-rate/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

Shockingly, a uniparty establishment official admitted on the record that immigration contributes to unemployment. 

The fact that he admitted it is shocking, the statement itself is akin to "water is wet" to everyone capable of independent thoughts and not completely snowed by the propaganda. 

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« Reply #37243 on: September 19, 2024, 10:34:56 AM »
https://nypost.com/2024/09/18/us-news/fed-chair-jerome-powell-blames-influx-of-illegal-migrants-for-rising-unemployment-rate/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

Shockingly, a uniparty establishment official admitted on the record that immigration contributes to unemployment.

The fact that he admitted it is shocking, the statement itself is akin to "water is wet" to everyone capable of independent thoughts and not completely snowed by the propaganda.
He also talked about how immigration slowed inflation, which obviously you would have to be terminally braindead to deny.

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« Reply #37244 on: September 19, 2024, 10:48:02 AM »
He also talked about how immigration slowed inflation, which obviously you would have to be terminally braindead to deny.
LoL.  Well lets see, the Feds cause inflation by printing money so they can slow it down by letting in millions of extra mouths to feed and thus pushing up unemployment.  Swell.  

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« Reply #37245 on: September 19, 2024, 10:50:20 AM »
LoL.  Well lets see, the Feds cause inflation by printing money so they can slow it down by letting in millions of extra mouths to feed and thus pushing up unemployment.  Swell. 
They also let in people who would work and help grow the economy. The biggest failure of the federal government was letting businesses fail for lack of workers, so even though they were late in addressing the problems, they did at least some things right.

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« Reply #37246 on: September 19, 2024, 10:53:28 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on this thread that has stated a position against legal immigration.


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« Reply #37247 on: September 19, 2024, 10:54:35 AM »
They also let in people who would work and help grow the economy. The biggest failure of the federal government was letting businesses fail for lack of workers, so even though they were late in addressing the problems, they did at least some things right.
You actually believe everything the propaganda tells you to believe don't you?

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« Reply #37248 on: September 19, 2024, 10:56:05 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on this thread that has stated a position against legal immigration.
FWIW:
I am against any immigration that is a net financial drain so that includes most legal immigration.

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« Reply #37249 on: September 19, 2024, 11:03:58 AM »
You actually believe everything the propaganda tells you to believe don't you?
Well the propaganda is supported by evidence. Most of the anti-immigration stuff is supported by hopes and dreams and vivid imagination. I have to follow the facts.

Frankly, anti-immigration laws are fairly socialist in nature in that they try to impact business through a centrally planned economy. I'm pretty dubious as to those kinds of restrictions in all cases, and I've seen nothing that shows draconian immigration restrictions do anything but harm the economy and restrict everyone's freedoms. They are a lose-lose, and it is only constant fearmongering about immigration that is usually based in lies that combats that.

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« Reply #37250 on: September 19, 2024, 11:13:58 AM »
Well the propaganda is supported by evidence. Most of the anti-immigration stuff is supported by hopes and dreams and vivid imagination. I have to follow the facts.

Frankly, anti-immigration laws are fairly socialist in nature in that they try to impact business through a centrally planned economy. I'm pretty dubious as to those kinds of restrictions in all cases, and I've seen nothing that shows draconian immigration restrictions do anything but harm the economy and restrict everyone's freedoms. They are a lose-lose, and it is only constant fearmongering about immigration that is usually based in lies that combats that.
Here is some actual evidence for you to consider.  

The US adopted what I'm sure you would consider to be "draconian immigration restrictions" in 1924.  These were not rescinded until the floodgates were opened in 1965.  

So based on your "evidence" the US must have been a dystopian backwater from 1924-1965, right?  

Contrary to the propaganda that you so willingly imbibe, in the ~40 years of severe immigration restriction the US built an economy larger than the entire rest of the world combined, supplied the materials needed and a substantial portion of the force to beat the Nazis, beat the Japanese, developed the Atomic Bomb, and were well on their way to putting a man on the moon.  The American working class was the envy of the world.  

The floodgates were opened in 1965 and today our pathetic space agency has to hitch a ride to get to the Space Station (which is about 400 km from earth as compared to the Moon which is 384,400 km away).  Our working class has seen their real earnings stagnate and drop and our fiscal situation is catastrophic to put it nicely.  

Your way failed and the propaganda doesn't change the facts.  

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« Reply #37251 on: September 19, 2024, 11:24:02 AM »

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So based on your "evidence" the US must have been a dystopian backwater from 1924-1965, right?  
Am I convinced that this was good when these restrictions were adopted during a time of great economic growth, and after the restrictions we had (literally) The Great Depression and then World War 2? I am not.

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« Reply #37252 on: September 19, 2024, 11:43:33 AM »
I would love it if a bunch of immigrant civil engineers and land surveyors would come in.
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« Reply #37253 on: September 19, 2024, 12:24:06 PM »
They also let in people who would work and help grow the economy. The biggest failure of the federal government was letting businesses fail for lack of workers, so even though they were late in addressing the problems, they did at least some things right.
Part of the problem that companies face when talking about a lack of available workers, is the government paying people a good living NOT to work. Hard for companies to compete with that. 

 

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