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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37198 on: September 16, 2024, 12:00:35 PM »
$163B annually isn't exactly meaningless.
my brother in christ it is completely and utterly meaningless when US national debt is $36+ trillion and growing like a weed by the second, US gov't is running $1.9 trillion deficits and annual interest costs on US national debt are now over $1 trillion.

US gov't spending increased by nearly $800 billion and the deficit increased by more than $320 billion from 2022 to 2023. Same shit happening from 2023 to 2024. Deficit just went from $1.7 trillion to $1.9 trillion with a month to go which means it's gonna top $2 trillion. Yikes.

Get that poultry $163 billion from those top 1%'ers, tax the billionaires into oblivion....and none of it would put a dent or mean fuck all until the US gov't starts slashing the spending with a hatchet in a huge way.

Propping up a wholly corrupt shithole eastern european country that has transformed into what is effectively a dictatorship and turning it into an effective vassal/colony of the US empire via US gov't using tax payer dollars to prop up an entire foreign government and arming/funding a foreign military to the hilt in an unnecessary proxy war to the tune of $200+ billion fucking dollars all in an attempt to try to bleed the 2nd largest nuclear power on planet earth seems like a giant fucking waste of US tax payer dollars and a giant money laundering operation and a bunch of fucking morons in the Biden administration and the US state department and CIA playing with fire....nuclear fire....the type that could kill us all. 

And this is just one little example of thousands of the US gov't pissing away it's tax payer dollars and giving it's citizens the middle finger.

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« Reply #37199 on: September 16, 2024, 12:16:55 PM »
it's not about balancing the budget

it's about big money folks cheating the system, many times criminally, to avoid paying taxes.

in that case, $163B annually isn't exactly meaningless.
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« Reply #37200 on: September 16, 2024, 12:17:37 PM »
my brother in christ it is completely and utterly meaningless when US national debt is $36+ trillion and growing like a weed by the second, US gov't is running $1.9 trillion deficits and annual interest costs on US national debt are now over $1 trillion.

US gov't spending increased by nearly $800 billion and the deficit increased by more than $320 billion from 2022 to 2023. Same shit happening from 2023 to 2024. Deficit just went from $1.7 trillion to $1.9 trillion with a month to go which means it's gonna top $2 trillion. Yikes.

Get that poultry $163 billion from those top 1%'ers, tax the billionaires into oblivion....and none of it would put a dent or mean fuck all until the US gov't starts slashing the spending with a hatchet in a huge way.
How do you eat an elephant? 

One bite at a time. 

If these are legitimately criminal tax evasion tactics, go after them. Go after enough of them, putting enough of them in prison, and you'll chill a lot more of them from trying. 

Will it fix the problem? No. Not even remotely close. Does that mean we should just ignore it? No. 

The big chomp in the elephant is figuring out entitlements. The next big chomp is defense. But that doesn't mean you just don't even bother with $163B/year of what hopefully can be low-hanging fruit. 

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« Reply #37201 on: September 16, 2024, 12:19:52 PM »
If these are legitimately criminal tax evasion tactics, go after them. Go after enough of them, putting enough of them in prison, and you'll chill a lot more of them from trying.
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Prison time will change their tune
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37202 on: September 16, 2024, 12:20:08 PM »
I think the wealthy can easily avoid taxes legally.   

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« Reply #37203 on: September 16, 2024, 12:34:47 PM »
I think the wealthy can easily avoid taxes legally. 
Perhaps. I'm sure there is a lot of legal tax avoidance. 

But the article is ostensibly referring to illegal, criminal acts. 

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« Reply #37204 on: September 16, 2024, 12:38:37 PM »
Will it fix the problem? No. Not even remotely close. Does that mean we should just ignore it? No.

The big chomp in the elephant is figuring out entitlements. The next big chomp is defense. But that doesn't mean you just don't even bother with $163B/year of what hopefully can be low-hanging fruit.
These fleecing miscreants and their shills in government endlessly plundering public funds should be given a neck tie party. Dick Cheney being the blue print for these pricks
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« Reply #37205 on: September 16, 2024, 01:18:57 PM »

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« Reply #37206 on: September 16, 2024, 02:35:21 PM »
I think the wealthy can easily avoid taxes legally. 
yes, but obviously, they'd like to avoid any and all taxes, so.............

they do illegal stuff
mostly because it works and they're not punished
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« Reply #37207 on: September 16, 2024, 03:00:10 PM »

She did say she likes Venn Diagrams, so sure.
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« Reply #37208 on: September 16, 2024, 03:45:08 PM »
yes, but obviously, they'd like to avoid any and all taxes, so.............

they do illegal stuff
mostly because it works and they're not punished
I don’t think so in general.   They can avoid all taxes legally with ease.  

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« Reply #37209 on: September 16, 2024, 03:48:07 PM »
I don’t think so in general.  They can avoid all taxes legally with ease. 
The article was about the top 1%. Not just the top 0.05% (or even narrower) that might be the ultra-wealthy who can get away with that. 

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« Reply #37210 on: September 17, 2024, 12:08:32 AM »
I bet it is the top one percent in income, not wealth.  Income is tougher to hide.

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