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It's why I tell people who are in swing states that maybe they have to vote pragmatically, but if you're NOT in a swing state, vote your conscience. Because it doesn't matter.

Oh so I've admitted to enjoying an IPA or two - now I have an conscience? I don't have to take that - I'm outta here and moving to Austin

I think Trump is making a smart bet that most of his constituency isn't into reading

Well, the constituency he is running against is only capable of TikTok for their news.   😂😂.  

It's a book about how he has to move to his grandmother's because his parents were alcoholic losers, and everyone around him didn't want to work, and it wasn't until he joined the Marines that he saw people who valued work and taking care of themselves. That is literally the gist of the book.

That’s not what I took away from it. They ( his family and friends) made bad decisions that were and are multi-generational, coupled with a lack of economic opportunity and substance abuse. You know, kinda like 99% of all the poor people in this country regardless of color. 

I've never understood the taking pride in a shitty job that pays poorly thing.  The coal miner thing. 

Whether it's by choice or by force, not having to do a tough job with poor pay is a blessing.  An opportunity. 

I don't have a lot of answers, and I know coal miners aren't learning to code en masse, but when basically anything else is better, you at least give it a shot, right?

Somebody told me when I was much younger “poor people have poor ways”. 

Never really understood it until I got older. 

I mean, that doesn’t make sense. How could the big, mean liberal media be a factor if its own constituency isn’t consuming?

Oh, stop. Just be transparent.

She is on record as being:

Against fracking
Against drilling
Defund the police
Decriminalized what is now illegally crossing the border
Medicare for all abolishing private health insurance
Pro rioters- She led the charge to bail out violent criminals
Tax dollars to provide healthcare, education, for illegal immigrants
Abolish ICE
right to vote for illegal immigrants
increase Government spending on family leave, family daycare


Do you really think those are things that appeal to people who read and understand the world? Even you know better than that.

This isn’t me talking by the way these are things that she is openly and publicly supported and it’s all on record.  She is actually further left than Bernie Sanders and has sponsored several of his extremely left legislative bills.

Oh, stop. Just be transparent.

She is on record as being:

Against fracking
Against drilling
Defund the police
Decriminalized what is now illegally crossing the border
Medicare for all abolishing private health insurance
Pro rioters- She led the charge to bail out violent criminals
Tax dollars to provide healthcare, education, for illegal immigrants
Abolish ICE
right to vote for illegal immigrants
increase Government spending on family leave, family daycare


Do you really think those are things that appeal to people who read and understand the world? Even you know better than that.

This isn’t me talking by the way these are things that she is openly and publicly supported and it’s all on record.  She is actually further left than Bernie Sanders and has sponsored several of his extremely left legislative bills.

Her abortion stance bugs some people too.

I've never understood the taking pride in a shitty job that pays poorly thing.  The coal miner thing. 

Whether it's by choice or by force, not having to do a tough job with poor pay is a blessing.  An opportunity. 

I don't have a lot of answers, and I know coal miners aren't learning to code en masse, but when basically anything else is better, you at least give it a shot, right?

Did you ever think it might come down to pay and taking care of one's family as best one could?  How much do you think coal miners make?  Poor Pay?  Anything else is better?  


annual_coal_mining_wages_13.xlsx (nma.org)