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You can wish it was something else.  But that's all it is...wishing. If I was a New York resident I might wish Andrew Cuomo was a decent person.  I could even create an alternate reality where he is a decent person.  But here we are.  You don't summon a protest, tell them lots of crazy, untrue things, tell them to fight like hell, and tell them you will go the capitol with them unless you are trying to stir it up. There's a pretty straight line between Trumps words and the riots, and there is a pretty easy reason to see why he wanted it to happen that way, and I think a lot of the other stuff is just people not wanting to live in that reality.

Yawn. 

How many people actually stormed the capitol. FBI has arrested what, 200? It looks like max 500. MAYBE 1,000. Out of supposedly 100,000+. That is the reality.

I don't know that there are hard numbers but I've seen estimated about 30,000 people were at the rally, about 10K went to the Capitol, and about 800 entered the Capitol.  Why this matters is beyond me - the idea that this was just a couple rubes who went off the deep end is pretty silly. I think about 300 have been arrested, many of whom claim they did exactly what Trump told them to do.

I don't think Trump would meet the legal definition of "incitement" to the level where he could be successfully prosecuted for it.

To act like he does not carry a huge moral responsibility for what happened is just denying the obvious.

No Trump does not carry any responsibility for 500 supporters going rouge 
He even stressed in his speech to peacefully protest

The left would love for Trump to just lie down and go away but thats not going to happen
Thats why they are pushing HR 1 so hard to rig the voting system so Trump cant win

If you tell 100 people to shoot someone, should you get a gold star if 99 don't shoot anyone?

If you tell 100 people to shoot someone, should you get a gold star if 99 don't shoot anyone?

Not seeing where Donald Trump told anyone to shoot anyone or storm the Capitol and break laws. In fact, he never said anything like that once. 

The folks at the rally were motivated Trump supporters, virtually all of them other than media and security.  Apparently, MOST did not go to the Capitol.

I think that is a different storyline versus had MOST gone to the Capitol.  It's not really all that critical but it's worth noting.  MOST of them did not heed the call to go.  Some did, apparently single digit percentages.

As noted above, Trump might not have passed the legal threshold for incitement, but his actions make him responsible for it, in my view.

He and his folks were citing all sorts of nonsense about the voting.  That got people riled up, some more than others.

Yeah, no.

If some fkn retard interperted what he was saying in their retarded lizard brain and went out and committed acts of violence and broke the law- well that's on that fkn dumbass.

People need to take responsibility for THEIR OWN ACTIONS. No one does this anymore. It's always someone elses' fault. No one tell them no it's not dumbass- it's your own stupid fault.

Thank you for not pretending to be anything other than what you are.  At least I've been right about you.