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« Reply #2632 on: February 15, 2021, 11:32:08 AM »
We've had 3-1-1 for decades.
Same in Illinois. Florida has had it for a while too.
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« Reply #2633 on: February 15, 2021, 11:47:17 AM »
Yeah, that's definitely not the traditional fade route. 
In my game, I'm not sure everyone knows what a "dig" route is, so I type it out as "deep in."
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A fade where you aren't expecting the ball to be thrown at you, but at an area you create between you, the defender, and the sideline is what I'm talking about.  You stutter-step off the line, then get width to the outside of the corner, and then go upfield, expecting the ball in that area, usually a rainbow-type throw that should land right along the sideline.
Isn't a fade route basically a corner route? 

A route that starts vertically against a defender with inside leverage so that you can run outside the defender, where you'll work away from the ball. 

In the red zone the outside defenders often have to play inside leverage to defend the slant routes, rub routes, etc. That leaves the fade open, but it's really just a corner route thrown on a timing play to get the ball along the sideline where only the receiver can get it or nobody gets it.

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« Reply #2634 on: February 15, 2021, 11:53:39 AM »
We've had 3-1-1 for decades.
after some checking....... apparently Iowa has had it since at least 2012

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« Reply #2635 on: February 15, 2021, 11:55:50 AM »
When I was in college, I had a phys ed class with some Dawg starters.  Our WRs of the day tended to be 5'11" ish.

Today, most are 3-4 inches taller, and perhaps that has influenced what passes work.  Of course DBs have gotten taller as well, so maybe not.  Back when, someone with my height would be pretty slow running the 40.  

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« Reply #2636 on: February 15, 2021, 03:27:04 PM »
If an EV had two battery packs and two charging ports, could you charge twice as fast with two chargers?

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« Reply #2637 on: February 15, 2021, 03:46:31 PM »
If an EV had two battery packs and two charging ports, could you charge twice as fast with two chargers?
I'm going with no... 

The rate of charge is limited by the safety of each battery cell itself. Essentially your EV has hundreds of battery cells, and the arbitrary delineation of the batteries into one "pack" or two "packs" is immaterial. 

Likewise, the amount of voltage and current at that voltage that the charging port is capable of accepting will be sized to the maximum rate of charge of all cells in parallel. Unless you had some limit as far as how much current could safely be carried through one port, simply making the port beefier accomplishes the same thing having two ports would do--the actual charge going to each cell will be controlled by the charging electronics, not the size or number of input ports. 

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« Reply #2638 on: February 15, 2021, 03:59:29 PM »
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Two separate battery packs with two separate charging outlets and two separate chargers.

Evs today have only one charging outlet so far as I can discern.

Even small airplanes have two isolated fuel tanks.  You can refuel them in theory with two gasoline trucks twice as fast as one.

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« Reply #2639 on: February 15, 2021, 04:04:48 PM »
My boat had two tanks, and we filled them at the same time. When you're tossing 200 gallons in each, that can take a while.
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« Reply #2640 on: February 15, 2021, 04:18:11 PM »
We only had one fuel truck and there was no hurry.

The 172 held 50 gallons, it had the extended range tanks, they usually held 40.  You'd get 9-10 gallons per hour and 120 knots cruising speed, roughly.

The gas was termed "100 LL", Low Lead.  It had some lead for the valve seats.

We'd check each tank for water before take off.


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« Reply #2641 on: February 15, 2021, 04:20:53 PM »
My boat averaged 1.2 gallons/mile.
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« Reply #2642 on: February 15, 2021, 04:32:37 PM »
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Two separate battery packs with two separate charging outlets and two separate chargers.

Evs today have only one charging outlet so far as I can discern.

Even small airplanes have two isolated fuel tanks.  You can refuel them in theory with two gasoline trucks twice as fast as one.
The question you ask yourself is where is the bottleneck?

Imagine if your airplane had 512 individual mini fuel tanks. Those tanks (to reduce weight) were made of a flexible material like a balloon to reduce weight. 

You have to fill each little balloon with the right amount of fuel. Filling a single balloon too fast will cause the balloon to shear and pop. Filling too much per single balloon will cause them to overfill and pop. So you have flow regulators on every single balloon to make sure they all get filled the proper amount.

Now, you've got one fuel port, and that fuel port goes to the internal pump and is distributed to the flow regulators to all 512 individual balloons. 

If you design a fuel port that doesn't allow enough flow to fill 512 balloons at maximum rate at once, then your fuel port is the bottleneck. If the pump on the charging truck doesn't put out enough flow to fill 512 balloons at maximum rate at once, then your truck flow rate is the bottleneck. In either case, then yes adding another fuel port and additional trucks will help. 

If your fuel port and fuel truck have enough capacity to exceed the flow rate of 512 balloons, however then adding fuel ports and additional trucks, or splitting those 512 balloons into two separate 256-balloon "packs", won't make a difference. 

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To go back to the EV example in a typical charging setup...

  • EV charge rate on a 120V wall outlet is ABYSMAL. A common circuit on your breaker might be 15A, giving you at most 1.8kW of charging power.  If that was the only way you had to charge, connecting several different 110V extension cords (from different circuits off your breaker) to multiple charging ports would increase charge rate.
  • EV charge rate on a 240V outlet is significantly better. But that doesn't mean you'll get maximum charging if you just hook it up to the electric dryer outlet in your garage. Apparently dryer circuits require 30A, so you boost yourself to 7.2kW. According to this, that only gets you to a charge level of about 18 miles of charge per hour. Probably enough for typical overnight chargers. But they make chargers that can go faster if you put in high enough breaker capacity. 
  • Tesla Superchargers apparently are capable of delivering 250kW. That's close enough to the maximum safe peak charging speed of the batteries themselves that there's not much reason to add another port...

An example is here:



When the battery is 20% or less, technically it can take charge faster than the 250kW charger can provide. But as soon as you get just barely past 20%, a 250kW charging station will be limited by the maximum charge rate of the battery, not the output of the charger. 

And typical EV practice is to try to remain within 20% and 80% of charge to maximize the life cycle of the battery.

So the realistic bottleneck if you're looking for maximum charge rate is the limitation of the battery, not the number of chargers or number of ports. 

I suppose if you had two of the Tesla v2 Superchargers hooked up together to two ports--because there were no v3 Superchargers around, technically the batteries would charge faster up until about 55% charge. But that's not inherent to single or dual ports, or single or dual packs, it's inherent to having your bottleneck be the wattage of the charger. 

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« Reply #2643 on: February 15, 2021, 04:46:37 PM »
Isn't a fade route basically a corner route?

A route that starts vertically against a defender with inside leverage so that you can run outside the defender, where you'll work away from the ball.

In the red zone the outside defenders often have to play inside leverage to defend the slant routes, rub routes, etc. That leaves the fade open, but it's really just a corner route thrown on a timing play to get the ball along the sideline where only the receiver can get it or nobody gets it.
It's closer to being an inverted corner route, where you get the most width towards the sideline right off the snap and you purposely trail towards it slowly, while leaving yourself enough room.
On a corner route, you begin straight upfield, and even ease towards the goalpost before sharply breaking out at a 45 degree angle, full-speed towards the sideline.
Fade routes near the goal line have evolved into looking more like a corner route, because so many of them are back-shoulder fades.  But a traditional, between-the-20s fade route you should be able to run under the ball and only jump up at it if it's headed out of bounds.  The end zone variety are almost exclusively the jump-ball ones.
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #2644 on: February 15, 2021, 04:47:35 PM »
Let's imagine two Teslas pull up to a charger.  One starts charging at X rate and the other also charges at X rate.  The total charge is clearly 2x rate.

Two separate battery packs, two separate chargers.  The total amount of charging is twice as fast in terms of Kwhrs per minute.

The packs happen to  be in different cars instead of one car.

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« Reply #2645 on: February 15, 2021, 04:56:55 PM »
It's closer to being an inverted corner route, where you get the most width towards the sideline right off the snap and you purposely trail towards it slowly, while leaving yourself enough room.
On a corner route, you begin straight upfield, and even ease towards the goalpost before sharply breaking out at a 45 degree angle, full-speed towards the sideline.
Fade routes near the goal line have evolved into looking more like a corner route, because so many of them are back-shoulder fades.  But a traditional, between-the-20s fade route you should be able to run under the ball and only jump up at it if it's headed out of bounds.  The end zone variety are almost exclusively the jump-ball ones.

seems like how the "option" "read" routes evolved

defense has inside leverage, throw the ball to the outside

defense plays outside throw the ball inside
either or, on the fly pattern or fade pattern
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