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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #24305 on: June 06, 2023, 06:17:14 AM »
I have no reason to doubt the IQ data (except perhaps one doesn't like the results).  Maybe they are wrong and others can provide better data.

It's logical that there is SOME selection basis for intelligence in going to college, the very very low end of the band is largely not going.  That alone would shift matters a point or three.  The very high band is almost all going.

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« Reply #24306 on: June 06, 2023, 08:16:18 AM »
it's a list and could easily go in the ranking thread
there are good reasons to doubt any list

obviously the first step is measuring the IQ
that can be tricky in itself
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« Reply #24307 on: June 06, 2023, 08:41:41 AM »
I don't think 2/3rds of college degrees are meaningless.  Some seem that way perhaps, but the graduates tend to find jobs if they wish.  The jobs might have little to do with their college degree.  Our HOA requires the manager to have a degree.  It's a pretty simple job, it pays decently, and the current manage is an idiot in my view.  But she has a degree, in something.  The folks who work at the front desk are a LOT smarter.
I believe that you just made Medina's point with this post.

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« Reply #24309 on: June 06, 2023, 11:55:00 AM »
Experts have worked out which majors have the highest IQ (thetab.com)

Some things that jump out to me:

Economics:
This one is weird.  On the table it is tied for 5th highest behind only Physics, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Materials Engineering.  I don't know how other schools handle it, but at Ohio State (at least ~30 years ago when I was there), there were three different ways to major in Economics:
  • BS:  They offered a Bachelor of Science with a major in Economics.  This was BY FAR the toughest one and involved a LOT of math which is probably why, on this table, it is up near math.  
  • BA:  They offered a Bachelor of Arts with a major in Economics.  This was BY FAR the easiest one and involved a lot less math.  It was more of a "generic" degree with a concentration in Economics.  
  • BSBA:  All Business degrees were Bachelor of Science in Business Administration so this was just a BSBA with a major in Economics.  This one fits between the other two on the intellectual difficulty scale and was obviously much more business-focused than the other two.  

Business degrees generally:
On the table there are five business-type majors:
  • 125 Business and Finance
  • 124 Computer and Information Science - I listed this as business because when I was at tOSU this was combined with Accounting, the major was "Accounting and Management Information Systems".  
  • 114 Business
  • 111 Business Admin and Management
  • 110 Accounting

When I was at Ohio State I triple majored in:
  • Accounting and Management Information Systems
  • Finance
  • Real Estate

Real Estate is somewhat of a niche thing so it isn't on the table, we can ignore that one.  My other two were, per this table, the highest and lowest IQ business majors.  What I find odd is that Accounting is the lowest.  My observation was the opposite.  I knew plenty of Finance majors who had started out Accounting and dropped "down" because Accounting was too hard, I didn't know anyone the other way around.  Not that Finance was all that easy, just that my guess would have been more like:
  • Accounting/MIS
  • Finance
  • Admin
  • Business


Ohio State also had another oddity that I did not discover until my final quarter (fall, 1997):
I had decided to stay an extra quarter to get the third major (and another season of football tickets).  I was done with the requirements for my Accounting and Finance majors and just needed a few classes to add the Real Estate major so I was taking all Real Estate classes (and a fairly light load basically enjoying a final quarter, going to football games, and getting a third major).  

Anyway, one of my classes was in Real Estate Appraisals.  It was offered only at night because the instructor was an Appraiser who came in a couple evenings a week to teach this class.  The first day he had everyone in class introduce themselves (name, major).  The Real Estate major in the Business College was EXTREMELY small, there were only maybe a dozen of us TOTAL and only a few were in this class but the class was PACKED.  As people introduced themselves only a few of us were Business/Real Estate majors.  The rest were all "Personal Finance" Majors.  None of us (the business majors) had ever heard of that so finally someone asked what it was and one of them answered that it was an Arts major for people who couldn't get into the Business College.  Several of the others objected to that definition but, as we learned, that is exactly what it was.  

In the class we had income property appraisals where the main consideration was the value of the income stream that the property produced.  For those of us from the business college these were EXTREMLY simple problems.  The Personal Finance majors (almost without exception) could not understand the concept and we (the business majors) tried again and again to explain it to them.  

My lesson from this:  NEVER TRUST A STOCK BROKER:
The majority of these Personal Finance majors planned to become stockbrokers because that is what you do with a BA in Personal Finance.  

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #24310 on: June 06, 2023, 11:59:28 AM »
Philosophy - 129
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« Reply #24311 on: June 06, 2023, 12:05:53 PM »
Philosophy - 129
that says it all about this list
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« Reply #24312 on: June 06, 2023, 12:21:34 PM »
well, to be fair, I didn't take any upper level Philosophy course

I never knew anyone that did either
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« Reply #24313 on: June 06, 2023, 12:26:05 PM »

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« Reply #24314 on: June 06, 2023, 12:27:34 PM »
well, to be fair, I didn't take any upper level Philosophy course

I never knew anyone that did either
I minored in philosophy. I was already interested in it, and thought "it's in the school of Liberal Arts, so maybe it'd be a good place to meet girls." Nope. More of a sausage fest than electrical engineering. 

That said, philosophy is a very SMALL field full of extreme nerds who like to think for thinking's sake

Not shocked to see it aligned with a high IQ. 

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #24315 on: June 06, 2023, 12:39:20 PM »
UFO crash retrievals going back to the early 1900s, government cover-up, non-human intelligences (plural) and bodies.  The whistle blower sounds about as credible as one can be.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/military-whistleblower-public-claims-us-secret-ufo-retrieval-program-terrestrial-arms-race



And just recently Sean Kirkpatrick of the new All-Domain Anomaly Resolution office at the Pentagon testified to Congress that there was "no credible evidence."


https://www.space.com/pentagon-aaro-ufo-hearing-april-2023




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« Reply #24316 on: June 06, 2023, 02:45:36 PM »
I actually have a BSBA in Economics from Ohio State. Not that I every really used it as through a series of events through the years I ended up an accountant/CPA. 

Also I skewed the average IQ for Economic majors a fair bit higher, but then I started out as a Physics major and then to Mechanical Engineering before finally getting my BSBA.

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« Reply #24317 on: June 06, 2023, 09:34:59 PM »
just one example why the list might be flawed
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