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ELA

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« Reply #16632 on: May 18, 2022, 11:35:01 PM »
Do you know why they have closed primaries

Its to keep the opposing party from choosing the candidate they want to run against

Now Im not saying I like closed primaries but I understand why they exist
Except when the last representative resigned, as a pro-lifer who had paid his mistress for an abortion, and the parties were allowed to appoint their candidate, they each selected a centrist candidate who would have never survived a primary.

We've reached a point where the establishment is actually all that is saving us from the fringe. And both fringes are scary as hell
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« Reply #16633 on: May 19, 2022, 08:25:41 AM »
I would prefer that they eliminate the primaries all together and choose candidates the way they used to do it. Let the parties decide who they want to run and put them on the Nov ballots. The primaries are nothing but a show anyway. 

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« Reply #16634 on: May 19, 2022, 08:27:42 AM »
I would prefer that they eliminate the primaries all together and choose candidates the way they used to do it. Let the parties decide who they want to run and put them on the Nov ballots. The primaries are nothing but a show anyway.
I mean that has its own issues, but at this point, it's better than this

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« Reply #16635 on: May 19, 2022, 08:36:35 AM »
I would prefer that they eliminate the primaries all together and choose candidates the way they used to do it. Let the parties decide who they want to run and put them on the Nov ballots. The primaries are nothing but a show anyway.
Big waste of money too.

We could talk about the 17th Amendment here too, but I'm conflicted on that.

I mean, some states are corrupt to the core and having the state legislatures choose a Senator invites even more corruption. People would be buying and selling Senate seats (looking at you, Illinois).

Anybody with ideas on how to get back to that process? Term limits in state legislatures might be the answer. Not sure.
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« Reply #16636 on: May 19, 2022, 08:42:48 AM »

this is beyond funny.....Exxon Mobil....top 10 ESG S&P 500 company for the environment and society...Tesla not....:043:

It gets worse....5 oil & gas companies were added from same index while Tesla was removed....:043:
While that may be ridiculous so is your man crush on ELON FFS.There is plenty wrong with Electric cars,like perhaps the grid getting crushed by fools with an ideology.I got news for those slappies the only way to supply this nonsense is Nuclear and that opens another bag of snakes. And since our Federal Government seems to want to fund every country that really doesn't give a shit about the USA they nead to stop that also and pay attention to this country.The answer IMHO lies with mass transit or the quote at the bottom of the page


https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-much-oil-electric-vehicle/
For every 10% in weight reduction, the fuel economy of a car improves roughly 5% to 7%. EV's need to achieve weight reductions because the battery packs that power them can weigh over 1000 lbs, requiring more power. Today, plastics and polymers are used for hundreds of individual parts in an electric vehicle.

https://www.inverse.com/article/51486-electric-cars-demand-better-infrastructure
American drivers log about 3 trillion miles per year, consuming more than 170 billion gallons of gasoline and diesel in the process. Converting all those road miles to electricity would place new demands on the nation’s system for producing and delivering electricity.As part of a major energy infrastructure study, we are seeking to understand how an increase in electric vehicles (EVs) might change how energy is supplied and consumed. So far, we have figured out the impact of electric vehicles will depend on where you live and when they are charged.
The US electric grid has continually evolved to accommodate new demands throughout the last century. But if the nation’s vehicles were to rapidly become electric, the grid would need to change faster. Depending on local driving habits and the grid infrastructure that’s already in place, our analysis shows that EVs will have different impacts in different regions.

Since Texas and California consume more electricity than any other states, they provide a good snapshot of what a future filled with electric vehicles might look like. In both cases, an increase in EVs would drive consumption higher, with the potential to strain local infrastructure.

https://www.treehugger.com/whats-carbon-footprint-making-tesla-battery-4857444
The factory is in the middle of nowhere, really -- 23 miles from the nearest city of any size, Reno, Nevada. If we assume that this is the average distance workers are commuting (and it is likely a lot farther), that the cars are powered by gasoline, and that they are average size, then according to the EPA they pump out about 411 grams of CO2 per mile or 18.9 kilograms per round trip. Multiply that by 3,000 and you have 57 tonnes of CO2 generated every day just by the the workers driving to the factory. The average car puts out 4.7 tonnes per year. So every day that the Gigafactory workers drive to work to make batteries for carbon-saving electric cars, they generate as much CO2 as 12 conventional cars do in a year.



Commenters also noted in our post on hydrogen powered cars that there is a significant environmental impact in the mining of the lithium, cobalt, and nickel that go into the batteries. Lithium is actually not so bad; most of it is extracted from brines that are evaporated by the sun. According to the Financial Times,

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Chile’s SQM, one of the largest producers of lithium from brine, said more than 97 per cent of its energy comes from the sun, and other types of energy is only used for pumping and transporting the brine to its plants. It estimates it produces 1 tonne of C02 [sic] per tonne of lithium carbonate produced.

However, more and more lithium is being sourced through hard rock mining and its footprint is increasing. Electric cars still have a huge physical and carbon footprint and, while they are obviously better than ICE powered cars and probably better than hydrogen powered, vehicles, they are still cars.


✔✔✔  As Alex Steffen noted years ago:


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The answer to the problem of the American car is not under the hood, and we're not going to find a bright green future by looking there.... There is a direct relationship between the kinds of places we live, the transportation choices we have, and how much we drive. The best car-related innovation we have is not to improve the car, but eliminate the need to drive it everywhere we go.







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« Reply #16637 on: May 19, 2022, 09:18:53 AM »

Anybody with ideas on how to get back to that process? Term limits in state legislatures might be the answer. Not sure.
Term limits in the Legislature are not the answer. Ask California about that. 

Mandatory retirement ages would be far more effective. Both parties MUST get younger. 

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« Reply #16638 on: May 19, 2022, 09:30:32 AM »
Term limits in the Legislature are not the answer. Ask California about that.

Mandatory retirement ages would be far more effective. Both parties MUST get younger.
I'm talking about having the state legislatures choose the states' Senators. How can that process not be corrupt, if the the state reps and senators are lifers?
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« Reply #16639 on: May 19, 2022, 09:50:40 AM »

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« Reply #16640 on: May 19, 2022, 10:21:59 AM »
Good Post,Cheney is a puss sack on the hind side of humanity - Dubya just a clueless enabler
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« Reply #16641 on: May 19, 2022, 10:56:37 AM »
Big waste of money too.

We could talk about the 17th Amendment here too, but I'm conflicted on that.

I mean, some states are corrupt to the core and having the state legislatures choose a Senator invites even more corruption. People would be buying and selling Senate seats (looking at you, Illinois).

Anybody with ideas on how to get back to that process? Term limits in state legislatures might be the answer. Not sure.
I am not the least bit conflicted on this.  The States lost any power that they had against the Federal government with the 17th amendment.  Senators use to be concerned with states rights, etc. now not so much. The 17th amendment basically repealed the 10th amendment or at least it lost its power. 

The house is for the people, the senate was (should be) for the states. 

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« Reply #16642 on: May 19, 2022, 11:10:52 AM »
No corruption concerns?
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« Reply #16643 on: May 19, 2022, 12:19:18 PM »
NBA is about to return to China state TV, after a ban there, which I believe was over that Houston Rockets GM tweeting support of Hong Kong- when China decided to illegally take and occupy Hong Kong and destroy self-rule and freedom in that territory.

NBA makes about $5 billion a year off China, and the 40 principal owners of the 30 NBA teams have about $10 billion of their own $$$$ invested in other businesses/joint ventures inside China.

NBA should grow a sack and tell China to f**k off once and for all.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33938932/nba-owners-mum-china-relationship-more-10-billion-invested-there

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« Reply #16644 on: May 19, 2022, 01:09:10 PM »
this is a fascinating discussion with Peter Zeihan. Latest census data in China shows they've overcounted their population by 100 million, and that China's population could half in the next 45 years, and even as soon as 2050. A one child policy for decades will do that to ya. 

China also, on any given month prints 2-5x the amount of currency that the US does- and their currency isn't linked to dozens of others nor used in international trade at all like the US dollar- which is the standard for international trade. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Y8Gh12ao0

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« Reply #16645 on: May 19, 2022, 01:31:53 PM »
No corruption concerns?
Could it be any worse than what we currently have in DC? Look at the DC and the surrounding counties. The 4 richest counties per capita in the country. Talk about corruption, it probably does not get any worse than DC.

Would there be corruption in the state legislatures? There already is I would assume. Forget Illinois, there were a few in Ohio that got caught up in a pay for play scheme with Ohio energy companies. 

The point is that the legislature could put Senators in place that would vote in the states interest instead of Chuck Schumer or Mitch McConnell's or the Democrats and Republicans interests. As it currently stands, we have an Ohio Senator that basically votes the way Chuck Schumer tells him to and one that votes the way the Republican establishment demands. I would prefer to be able to call my state rep and say that these idiots need to be recalled and replaced as they are not voting in Ohio's interest. And if I don't see any movement from him/her, I will support someone that will get the job done. 

 

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