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Topic: In other news (apolitical thread)...

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #658 on: March 14, 2025, 04:17:43 PM »
I'll take this as good news for FF. Corngrats.
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #659 on: March 14, 2025, 07:51:30 PM »
I'm guessing folks that live in that area get by on much less water than average, even if they have a well.
If they're haulin water???  WAY less
Agreed.
"hauling water" and "average use" are 2 terms that don't belong in the same discussion.
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #660 on: March 14, 2025, 10:10:58 PM »
I'll take this as good news for FF. Corngrats.
it's good news
thanks!!!
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #661 on: March 14, 2025, 10:11:50 PM »
Damn. Sorry(?) to hear...

Did you get a retirement package (i.e. severance) on your way out since it's a layoff?

not much of one
Oh well,  I'm happy
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #662 on: March 15, 2025, 01:40:03 AM »
Happy Retirement Day Fearless!

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #663 on: March 15, 2025, 09:50:23 AM »
thanks
I didn't have a very stressing job, but this is freedom!
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #664 on: March 15, 2025, 02:03:46 PM »
in other news........... I'm unemployed and officially retired again.

Zoom meeting this morning - canned the communications segment - all 8 of us.
a couple got offered other positions in the company - feel bad for the rest of the team.  None of them are old enough to be in my position.

I'm fine with it.  Golf course opens Monday morning!
Been retired almost a year.  You will find that retirement is great. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #665 on: March 15, 2025, 02:39:02 PM »
I hope so
I'm bored easily
need another hobby besides this board, golf, driving the Vette, and swilling beer
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #666 on: March 15, 2025, 07:25:52 PM »
PSA: Never trust any data you care about to a single storage device. ESPECIALLY if it's a USB thumb drive. 

Thankfully, what precipitated this post wasn't a loss of important data. It was a loss of unimportant but useful data on a thumb drive, which forced me into some frustration and eventual workarounds to do what I wanted to do. Basically it was my bootable Ubuntu installer which I needed for a project today, and if I hadn't figured out the workarounds, I would have stalled a project until mid-week because I wouldn't have an appropriate PC to do what I wanted until I go to the office this week. 

All important data should be stored in a primary location with at least one backup, and it's HIGHLY recommended to also have an offsite backup for your backup. This is part of the project--I'm replacing a dead home "server" PC with a new one, and one of the things I want to do with it is to be the PC that handles sync with a cloud storage company for offsite backup. If you can't do offsite, you should have at least a third level of onsite redundancy. 

But as someone who is deeply embedded in the data storage industry, it's important to highlight that if you use an unreliable storage media as your backup, you essentially don't have one. And USB thumb drives are a tremendously unreliable storage media. NAND flash, like many chips, is subject to "binning", meaning that based on testing of the wafer before it's cut into individual chips, the quality grade of each chip is known. The highest quality will end up in enterprise SSDs, client SSDs, UFS/eMMC chips (especially for mobile or industrial use where reliability is key), etc. The lowest quality have to end up somewhere, and it isn't the trash can. That's what goes into USB thumb drives--PARTICUARLY those of the cheap or unknown brands that seem alarmingly inexpensive. (Of note: the device that died was a 32GB drive that was a free add-on from Micro Center. The actual vendor is unknown to me as it it was white labeled as a "Micro Center" flash drive. It was the bottom of the barrel.)

So my frustration was the impetus to say this:


  • Back up your important data. 
  • Back it up on reliable media. Test the backup frequently. 
  • Back up your backup. Do it offsite if at all possible. 


I'm sure all of you have data that you can't afford to lose. And you probably have data that you can "afford" to lose, i.e. digital photos / home videos and the like, but your significant other will make the loss of that data VERY painful for you lol... The cost to protect that data is much less than the pain of finding out it's gone. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #667 on: March 16, 2025, 05:10:45 AM »
PSA: Never trust any data you care about to a single storage device. ESPECIALLY if it's a USB thumb drive.

Thankfully, what precipitated this post wasn't a loss of important data. It was a loss of unimportant but useful data on a thumb drive, which forced me into some frustration and eventual workarounds to do what I wanted to do. Basically it was my bootable Ubuntu installer which I needed for a project today, and if I hadn't figured out the workarounds, I would have stalled a project until mid-week because I wouldn't have an appropriate PC to do what I wanted until I go to the office this week.

All important data should be stored in a primary location with at least one backup, and it's HIGHLY recommended to also have an offsite backup for your backup. This is part of the project--I'm replacing a dead home "server" PC with a new one, and one of the things I want to do with it is to be the PC that handles sync with a cloud storage company for offsite backup. If you can't do offsite, you should have at least a third level of onsite redundancy.

But as someone who is deeply embedded in the data storage industry, it's important to highlight that if you use an unreliable storage media as your backup, you essentially don't have one. And USB thumb drives are a tremendously unreliable storage media. NAND flash, like many chips, is subject to "binning", meaning that based on testing of the wafer before it's cut into individual chips, the quality grade of each chip is known. The highest quality will end up in enterprise SSDs, client SSDs, UFS/eMMC chips (especially for mobile or industrial use where reliability is key), etc. The lowest quality have to end up somewhere, and it isn't the trash can. That's what goes into USB thumb drives--PARTICUARLY those of the cheap or unknown brands that seem alarmingly inexpensive. (Of note: the device that died was a 32GB drive that was a free add-on from Micro Center. The actual vendor is unknown to me as it it was white labeled as a "Micro Center" flash drive. It was the bottom of the barrel.)

So my frustration was the impetus to say this:


  • Back up your important data.
  • Back it up on reliable media. Test the backup frequently.
  • Back up your backup. Do it offsite if at all possible.


I'm sure all of you have data that you can't afford to lose. And you probably have data that you can "afford" to lose, i.e. digital photos / home videos and the like, but your significant other will make the loss of that data VERY painful for you lol... The cost to protect that data is much less than the pain of finding out it's gone.

Did I ever tell you that my first gig at my current company was supply chain for tape storage?  We still sell something like $300M worth of tape storage every year believe it or not.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #668 on: March 16, 2025, 06:17:06 AM »
in other news........... I'm unemployed and officially retired again.

Zoom meeting this morning - canned the communications segment - all 8 of us.
a couple got offered other positions in the company - feel bad for the rest of the team.  None of them are old enough to be in my position.

I'm fine with it.  Golf course opens Monday morning!
Lucky bastage I'm back to work in a warehouse (excersize mostly) and working with an old Bud. Scanning,inventory and bean counting are a pain in the arse,oh and ice fishing season is over
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #669 on: March 16, 2025, 06:19:10 AM »
I hope so
I'm bored easily
need another hobby besides this board, golf, driving the Vette, and swilling beer
at least until CFB Season resurfaces
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #670 on: March 16, 2025, 10:23:25 AM »
yup, perhaps I'll watch more baseball this season

as your the warehouse gig, your Bud hopefully appreciates the effort and exercise is good
I've hit the elliptical for 30 straight days - even finding the fitness room at the holiday Inn when on the road
Pretty sure I could walk 18 holes if it's too wet for carts
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #671 on: March 16, 2025, 10:42:37 AM »
Did I ever tell you that my first gig at my current company was supply chain for tape storage?  We still sell something like $300M worth of tape storage every year believe it or not.
Yeah, about 10% of worldwide installed data center storage capacity is tape. Not bad for a technology that was "dead" 30 years ago :57:

 

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