In other news (apolitical thread)...

[FearlessF]

Sam Kinison would be proud

[SFBadger96]

I remember my only trip to Ca and SF, 24 years ago. We crossed the Golden Gate Bridge, and it wasn’t long before we were in the country.  Running along the coast, I recall it looked very similar to this. Very strange ocean landscape compared to what we see in Tx. Here, about 5 miles before you get to the coast, it turns into a salt water marsh dead desert scape.  No trees, not much real grass, and lots of sand.

Yeah, this is just south of San Francisco, immediately south of Half Moon Bay, which is basically due west from where I live (about 25 minutes when there's no traffic on a Sunday morning). Fearless and his girls drove right past this when he was here not too long ago. This is farm country--they grow vegetables here--but because of California's coastline protection, we get the hiking path along the coast.

It was a terrible morning. /sarcasm.

[FearlessF]

try the Gilroy garlic ice cream!

[SFBadger96]

I love ice cream. 

I love garlic.

I have been to Gilroy many, many times.

I have never had garlic ice cream, and I never intend to.

[MrNubbz]

Sam Kinison would be proud

Wha.....,splain pleeze,shoulda shot your ass in Da Nang when I had the chance

[FearlessF]

https://youtu.be/M0LUdqFJEPI

[Gigem]

It would be an awfully dry well. There's a reason no one lives there, no water. No power either

And you’re an expert in underground water there?  Not saying it’s a slam dunk, but I’ve talked to plenty of drillers in Arizona and New Mexico who drill wells in dry places every day. 

[Gigem]

initial cost seems to be a much larger hurdle/barrier than is was decades ago.

at my previous job, we had to limit initial cost of installing an internet service or CATV service
$150 or $200 upfront killed opportunities

obviously, $10,000 or $15,000 for a well is just unobtainable for too many folks

Probably $20-30,000 for a well there. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

Some locations are 1,500-3,000' to the water...
AZ water depths

[Brutus Buckeye]

And you’re an expert in underground water there?  Not saying it’s a slam dunk, but I’ve talked to plenty of drillers in Arizona and New Mexico who drill wells in dry places every day.

Well it's not too far from where I live, so yes. I know where they go to fill up their water tanks, and I've seen them fill up their water tanks. So I'm not just completely talking out of my ass here. 

Obviously the Grand Canyon is right there. So a surface level water table is unlikely, as it would just drain into the canyon. Basements are also really uncommon around here because you'd have to dig into a bunch of thick rock in order to build one, and it's hella expensive. Said thick rock would also be a pretty big hindrance for digging a deep well, obviously.  

[Gigem]

Well it's not too far from where I live, so yes. I know where they go to fill up their water tanks, and I've seen them fill up their water tanks. So I'm not just completely talking out of my ass here.

Obviously the Grand Canyon is right there. So a surface level water table is unlikely, as it would just drain into the canyon. Basements are also really uncommon around here because you'd have to dig into a bunch of thick rock in order to build one, and it's hella expensive. Said thick rock would also be a pretty big hindrance for digging a deep well, obviously. 

They have DTH (down hole hammers) and big air compressors to bust through. 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Sure, fine. They all have wells. Water is abundant on the Arizona strip. It's like a giant oasis in the desert. 

[FearlessF]

Probably $20-30,000 for a well there.

I guess it depends on your commitment. You gonna be there for 20+ years?
might balance out with lot vs well here.  $40K of the lot and $10K for the well.

[Gigem]

I guess it depends on your commitment. You gonna be there for 20+ years?
might balance out with lot vs well here.  $40K of the lot and $10K for the well.

I don't understand the question.  $30K for 20 years, about $1500 a year.  The electricity to run the well is minimal, probably less than $20 per month.  How much will they spend hauling water, on fuel and time?  Much more.  How much does it cost to build a house now?  $300,000-500,000 for a "starter home".  I'm guessing building in the middle of nowhere is inherently expensive, but being out by yourself and not dependent on gov't and other people is what they're after.