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it's both a data point and a trump card. but you have to get close enough to use that card for it to matter. both teams with 1 loss, team a beat team b, doesn't matter if team b is beating others by more than team a does and "looks" better, it was settled on field. might have even been a fluke, but too bad no mulligans. but if team a has 3 losses while team b has only the 1, then it doesn't matter. jmo

also, for original poll i picked field cause what bama has done the last decade is unprecedented and i doubt anyone, including bama, can or will replicate it.

as you know, most are wrong

No, no, that can't be it.  I merely have an irrational hatred of the masses.

This is why I've always been resistant to using H2H as an end-all, be-all. 

In order to not seem like sour grapes, I'll use an example where it benefited my team:

1972:
Ohio State finished the regular season 9-1/7-1 and outscored their 10 opponents 263-129.

Michigan finished the regular season 10-1/7-1 and had outscored their 11 opponents 264-57.

Honestly, Michigan was probably the better team that year. They shutout four of their opponents and held 10 of their 11 opponents to single digits. Unfortunately for them, the one opponent that they didn't hold to single digits was Ohio State. The Buckeyes beat them 14-11 in Columbus. Note that Michigan outgained Ohio State 344-192 but chose to go for a TD and the win rather than a FG and a tie at the goal line late in the game.

Michigan's loss was obviously much better than Ohio State's 19-12 loss to MSU whom Michigan beat 10-0. 

Ohio State obviously had the better win and actually had two wins better than any by Michigan that year (Michigan and North Carolina who went undefeated in the ACC and finished the regular season 10-1 before winning their bowl). OTOH, Michigan's loss to Ohio State was a much better loss than Ohio State's loss to MSU.

Using H2H rewards quality wins but it frequently also rewards bad losses. I'm not saying that it is always wrong, just pointing out that it is not always right.

and what's the wager?

pride in knowing I was lucky enough to pick the correct answer would be plenty of me

but, that's not much cake in the game 

So 5-5, you are going Dutch? 

i thought of it more as a steak bet. you win, i pay. i win, you pay.

I'll pay at this place...........


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