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Topic: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?

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bayareabadger

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2023, 11:13:09 PM »
If you're adding anyone at all (and they should jettison teams, not add), I'd be fine with Oregon and Washington. Each has something to offer from a football front and passable history in basketball. 

Cal and Stanford should probably go the WAC, or Big XXIV if it will take them. OrSU and WSU are in the same boat, though probably more attractive to to the Big XXIV. 

The issue with all of this is that it creates a product that appeal to a broad "college football fan" while ignoring that the sport lives and dies with team-specific fans. And to maintain your proper volume of happy and therefore donating fans, bodybag games have a crucial value. It's like expanding the old SEC West problem.
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« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2023, 11:36:30 PM »
I always see Stanford linked with Cal and Washington linked with Oregon.
If I was the B1G, I'd want Stanford and Washington.
I think Warshington's academics + football puts it a step above Oregon (as a B1G person valuing academics so much).
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2023, 11:41:07 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 02, 2023, 11:13:09 PM
If you're adding anyone at all (and they should jettison teams, not add), I'd be fine with Oregon and Washington. Each has something to offer from a football front and passable history in basketball.
Lol no. Neither one adds jackshit at all. And Oregon actually detracts and hurts the helmets of the league- you know the teams that bring in all the tv dollars and prop the whole damn thing up....

B1G needs to look to the Southeast- that's where the growth in this country is. Not the fking Pacific Northwest.
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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2023, 12:48:06 AM »
Those ACC teams, despite recent talk, are still tied up until 2036.
Idk what FSU thinks it's doing, but I doubt it's going to do it.
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2023, 02:42:24 AM »
I'm pretty sure that  FSU's attorneys would very much like FSU's administrators to STFU.  
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2023, 05:23:21 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 02, 2023, 11:36:30 PM
I think Warshington's academics + football puts it a step above Oregon (as a B1G person valuing academics so much).
Who are we bullshitting when it comes to sports? We can take the sharpest kids and they will lose a lion's share of time in pratice/work outs/conditioning/playbook - at Div.I level. Time other students would be dedicating/applying to class load and studies. So athletes involved are way behind the 8 ball in cracking books to begin with,I never understood that position
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2023, 06:17:58 AM »
Illinois should move to Destin
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2023, 07:33:33 AM »
I'm not sure what the endgame is, but keep this in mind:

Washington and Oregon are not tied together at all.

UW has historically treated WSU and the Oregon schools the same way the U of Michigan has traditionally treated Michigan State: with rank contempt. Stanford and Cal are a package deal. UW has always considered themselves peers with the California Pac schools. 
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« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2023, 07:42:08 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 02, 2023, 11:41:07 PM
Lol no. Neither one adds jackshit at all. And Oregon actually detracts and hurts the helmets of the league- you know the teams that bring in all the tv dollars and prop the whole damn thing up....

B1G needs to look to the Southeast- that's where the growth in this country is. Not the fking Pacific Northwest.
I’m sure the answer will be amusing, but why does Oregon detract from the helmets? 
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2023, 07:46:34 AM »
UW has always considered the other Pac schools in the Northwest to be gassed up, overgrown truck driving schools that don't even belong with the local community colleges. And having been to Eugene, if Phil Knight wasn't cutting large checks to the university, they'd be right. 
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2023, 07:50:26 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 03, 2023, 07:42:08 AM
I’m sure the answer will be amusing, but why does Oregon detract from the helmets?
Recruiting with Nike money.
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bayareabadger

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2023, 08:07:35 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2023, 07:50:26 AM
Recruiting with Nike money.
So the UW-Maryland issue of yesteryear?
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2023, 08:18:51 AM »
UA money does not equal Nike money and it hasn't helped MD all that much anyway.

Oregon has a national brand because of Nike money. They do not need to be in this conference. 

Let the XII have them.
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2023, 08:58:16 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2023, 08:18:51 AM
UA money does not equal Nike money and it hasn't helped MD all that much anyway.

Oregon has a national brand because of Nike money. They do not need to be in this conference.

Let the XII have them.
Ahh, so of a feelings thing. Got it.
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