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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2019, 10:35:12 PM »
Could everybody pushing an 8-team playoff please spontaneously combust?
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2019, 11:08:59 PM »
The new OT rules that haven't been tested yet as far as I know (only 2-pt conversions on the 5th OT) are an improvement, but I'd move the starting point back to midfield to force teams to get into FG range. Either way it's better than the NFL but starting at the 25 yard line is just too close and marginalizes the defense.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2019, 11:21:45 PM »
1. Move the extra point try to the 10-yard line, and require it be a drop kick. Award two-points for a successful drop kick. Allow 3-points if a team can run or pass it into the end zone.

2. Eliminate Maryland and Rutgers from the Big Ten. They haven't added much. I would only do this if #3 were adopted, as well.

3. Roll back to 11-game schedules. Twelve games are too hard on the body.

4. Enforce the "false start" rule. Once the offense is set, I don't want to see linemen stand up and look at the sideline. It's not allowed by the rules. Recently I saw this draw a defensive offside when, after the linemen were set, they all stood up and looked at the sideline. That's a "false start." Enforce the rule.


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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2019, 12:50:30 AM »
The new OT rules that haven't been tested yet as far as I know (only 2-pt conversions on the 5th OT) are an improvement, but I'd move the starting point back to midfield to force teams to get into FG range. Either way it's better than the NFL but starting at the 25 yard line is just too close and marginalizes the defense.
I think there was a game with the new rule?  UNC?

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2019, 01:37:40 AM »
You want to see why ties are awesome.?  #5 Tenn at #3 AU 1990, I think this is late Sept., as I remember USC beat Ohio State this day and Nebraska beat Ore St.  Ron Franklin and Gary Danielson on the call.

I was little bit off, it was 26-10 Tennessee in the 4th and AU has a nice rally and scores a TD with about 1:56 left scoring on a tough 4th and 10 pass by Stan White and kicks the PAT for the tie.
Tenn drives into a FG range, and at 2:32.10 you can watch it unfold.  Notice a Volunteer player fires a water cup off the helmet off of his kicker's helmet after he saunters off the field after missing the kick.   Auburn is delirious of course.

one other footnote:  is it me, or was a lot louder at college football games years ago?  I've thought this for awhile,  the video boards, the piped in music and of course smartphones has interfered as much as anything, but this game is loud, all the freaking time.


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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2019, 06:08:51 AM »
The games need to be sped up.

Change Time outs to just 1 per quarter.

No tv time outs on the field.  TV will either have to go split screen to show commercials, or cut away for a couple of plays and then catch up by showing replays.  I am just tired of these 4 hour marathons in college football.  The game should be over in 2.5 hours.  3 hours max

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2019, 06:29:03 AM »
As for ties, it simply is not practical to have overtime only for the playoffs.  Something needs to be in place in the regular season that establishes how overtime works. 

Now maybe in the regular season you can just end the game in a tie after 2 overtimes.  But I don't like ties.  There always needs to be some kind of tie-breaker to say who wins.  Whether its division or conference champions or regular games, there has to be something that breaks the tie.  There are hard fought games all the time that could go either way, but one team needs to win and one team needs to lose.  

But I don't like games dragging out forever either.  So I would prefer they go to the rotating 2-pt conversions right from the start of OT.  You don't think that's fair?  Tough.  You had 60 minutes of regulation to win the game fairly.  At that point, they just need a quick way to break the tie.  Don't whine because you couldn't get it done in regulation time.  You know what the rules are and how overtime works.  So do what you have to do to win the game.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2019, 06:51:55 AM »
The biggest thing for me is commercial time.  I know I said changing that was not practicable, but maybe it is, the split screen idea, or a rolling banner below when the huddle.  Buy new Kenosha Stretch Underwear for your Goodies.  This is particularly annoying when you are at a game in person, aside from the 4 hours part.

I kinda like ties.  Sorta.  It makes going to two late in a game a bit more of a puzzle.


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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2019, 07:05:18 AM »
If they have to keep commercial breaks, I would prefer they be more evenly distributed throughout the quarter.

Instead of after every possession change, have the breaks 11:00, 7:00, and 3:00 munutes

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2019, 07:12:13 AM »
All replay reviews are limited to ten seconds.  The ref gets to look at the replay once, no more than twice, and then he's done.

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2019, 07:17:17 AM »
Just stop trying to turn it into two hand touch/flag football. 
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2019, 07:51:18 AM »
The biggest thing for me is commercial time.  
Ed Zachery,every time there is a time out for anything an injury or  referees review they should break for commercial.Satifying the advertisers and paying the bills.We don't need to watch the time delays
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2019, 07:56:40 AM »
As for ties, it simply is not practical to have overtime only for the playoffs.  Something needs to be in place in the regular season that establishes how overtime works. 

Now maybe in the regular season you can just end the game in a tie after 2 overtimes.  But I don't like ties.  There always needs to be some kind of tie-breaker to say who wins.  Whether its division or conference champions or regular games, there has to be something that breaks the tie.  
Conference point differential, with a cap at 25 points for each game (3+ possessions).  To break a conference or division tie, include only conference or divisional games.  For a national playoff, use point diff for the whole season.  It doesn't eliminate strategy - both teams know before the game starts who can afford a tie (win with a tie) and who has to go for the win.  
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2019, 08:00:16 AM »
Drew mentioned reffing.  For some reason, I thought it was worse than "normal" this season, and I'm talking games I was watching with NDitF.  The Iron Bowl was truly weird, even for it.  There were some bizarre calls that benefited the Dawgs.  I know it happens every season, but this year seemed far worse than normal.

I don't know why or how to fix it.

 

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