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Cincydawg

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2019, 07:06:36 PM »
I do enjoy teams based on strong defenses, so long as the offense is at least middlin'.


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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #127 on: December 19, 2019, 09:07:38 PM »
My researching has revealed 2 things I hadn't realized...
1 - pre-1990, basically everyone ran the ball 70-90% of the time, except for BYU and Miami
2 - most every punt returner stunk and averaged like 4 yards per return.....97% of them were useless.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #128 on: December 19, 2019, 09:53:18 PM »
check Johnny "the Jet" Rodgers 1970-1972 Nebraska



Year    PR   Yds    Avg.  TDs

1970 - 26   349    13.4   2

1971 - 33   548   16.6   3

1972 - 39  618    15.8   2

Totals - 98 1,515 15.5   7

yes, I noticed you said, "most every"
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2019, 12:31:11 AM »
eff you
Of course if we add replay to the mix, or simply Refs paying attention to DBs right in front of them intercepting passes with two feet and entire body roll in bounds, that OU/UT game probably doesn't end in a tie.  (of course countless other games would have to be reconciled over history).

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #130 on: December 20, 2019, 01:37:27 AM »
Of course if we add replay to the mix, or simply Refs paying attention to DBs right in front of them intercepting passes with two feet and entire body roll in bounds, that OU/UT game probably doesn't end in a tie.  (of course countless other games would have to be reconciled over history).
You talkin' 'bout 1984.

We're talking about 1983, where the Texas Longhorns dispatched the evil dirt burglars by a score of 28-16.

'84 was a disaster, not even counting that game.

And yeah, you wanna dissect one play like that, and I'll show you 15 more MNCs Texas woulda won.  That game could go on all day long.

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #131 on: December 20, 2019, 07:23:21 AM »
My researching has revealed 2 things I hadn't realized...
1 - pre-1990, basically everyone ran the ball 70-90% of the time, except for BYU and Miami
2 - most every punt returner stunk and averaged like 4 yards per return.....97% of them were useless.
Interesting.  The Dawgs had a great one in 1980 that saved them a couple of times, Scott Woerner, 488 yards.  I think back then, some teams didn't put much emphasis on special teams play, and a few did.

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #132 on: December 20, 2019, 08:52:31 AM »
What if "we" could magically trade a win for a loss?  They would have to be equivalent games, major bowl games in particular.  You could win one you had lost, but only by losing one you had won. 

That is an easy one for me, I would trade the early season win over UCLA in 1975 and trade it with a win over UCLA in the Rose Bowl. 

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #133 on: December 20, 2019, 11:07:00 AM »
My researching has revealed 2 things I hadn't realized...
1 - pre-1990, basically everyone ran the ball 70-90% of the time, except for BYU and Miami.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #134 on: December 20, 2019, 11:16:18 AM »
check Johnny "the Jet" Rodgers 1970-1972 Nebraska



Year    PR  Yds    Avg.  TDs

1970 - 26  349    13.4  2

1971 - 33  548  16.6  3

1972 - 39  618    15.8  2

Totals - 98 1,515 15.5  7

yes, I noticed you said, "most every"

Interesting.  The Dawgs had a great one in 1980 that saved them a couple of times, Scott Woerner, 488 yards.  I think back then, some teams didn't put much emphasis on special teams play, and a few did.
I honestly think HCs just put whoever could consistently field the punt cleanly back there.  They didn't care one bit who could do something with the ball once they caught it.  Your Rodgers' and Woerners could happen to do both.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #135 on: December 20, 2019, 12:17:15 PM »
didn't seem that way to me

saw plenty of punt returns for TDs at Nebraska during the 80s
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #136 on: December 20, 2019, 01:01:26 PM »
I dimly recall more exciting kick returns in days of yore than today, perhaps because STs were not emphasized on defense either.  FG kickers were rare who could boot from 40 consistently.  I think soccer has aided that.

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #137 on: December 20, 2019, 01:10:59 PM »
What if "we" could magically trade a win for a loss? 
I've already tossed my old Lotto tickets
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #138 on: December 20, 2019, 01:23:10 PM »
didn't seem that way to me

saw plenty of punt returns for TDs at Nebraska during the 80s
Yes, one helmet team.  
I'm talking about all sorts of teams over all sorts of years - like hundreds of data points.  
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #139 on: December 20, 2019, 01:29:23 PM »
Was there a larger split in talent between elite teams in 1970 and middlin teams, or about like now?


 

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