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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 11:36:33 PM »
OSU would hide in the rose and the Clemson would play LSU

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2019, 12:01:21 AM »

I'm guessing the undefeated reigning undefeated national champ has NEVER been ranked lower than 2nd in the final poll
Ehh, I already said one - 2014 FSU.  After winning it in 2013, Winston threw a bunch of INTs and FSU had a bunch of close games to end the season.  They were 3rd in the final playoff rankings. 
Those games were against unranked teams....however, Clemson has been destroying everyone down the stretch.  Much like Alabama has been given the benefit of the doubt at every turn, so too, would Clemson if this was 2003.  
Clemson only moved down to #2 this year after their close win over UNC.  The times they moved down to 3 and eventually 4, were after blowout wins.  I made this poll because if this was 15 years ago, I don't believe Clemson would move down (the current top-tier Clemson program).
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2019, 07:47:02 AM »
I am pretty sure it would be LSU-OSU back in the day, not Clemson.  The computers obviously had a role, earlier a big role, in this.

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2019, 09:16:17 AM »
Ehh, I already said one - 2014 FSU.  After winning it in 2013, Winston threw a bunch of INTs and FSU had a bunch of close games to end the season.  They were 3rd in the final playoff rankings.
Those games were against unranked teams....however, Clemson has been destroying everyone down the stretch.  Much like Alabama has been given the benefit of the doubt at every turn, so too, would Clemson if this was 2003. 
Clemson only moved down to #2 this year after their close win over UNC.  The times they moved down to 3 and eventually 4, were after blowout wins.  I made this poll because if this was 15 years ago, I don't believe Clemson would move down (the current top-tier Clemson program).
I thought we were talking pre-CFP.

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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2019, 10:13:57 AM »
I am pretty sure it would be LSU-OSU back in the day, not Clemson.  The computers obviously had a role, earlier a big role, in this.
yup, we need a timeframe

before or after computers?
BCS or Alliance or earlier

this year with a committee, just w/o a playoff?
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2019, 10:21:34 AM »
If it was before computers/BCS?

OSU would be playing Oregon in the Rose. LSU would be in the Sugar, probably against Clemson.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2019, 10:40:26 AM »
sweet, a split title like 97
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2019, 12:15:33 PM »
If it was before computers/BCS?

OSU would be playing Oregon in the Rose. LSU would be in the Sugar, probably against Clemson.
From 1968 until the Bowl Alliance went into effect, the Orange Bowl included the Big 8 champion.  The other team was usually either the SEC runner-up or the ACC champ.
Clemson might have been playing OU in the Orange Bowl.
OTOH, there were times during the pre-Bowl Alliance era when special arrangements were made.  #1 Nebraska playing #2 Bama in the 1971 (season) Orange Bowl while #3 Big 8 runner-up OU played SEC runner-up Auburn in the Sugar Bowl is an example.
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2019, 12:20:09 PM »
Yeah, I think Clemson would be in the Orange and LSU of course in the SB.  The three would not face each other.


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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2019, 01:24:07 PM »
perfect

They would all have a chance at a title, hoping for upsets if you were #3

or hoping your victory was more impressive regarding opponent to jump the others
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2019, 01:37:43 PM »
If the 3 all played in different bowls, it would get REALLY interesting.  Clemson (ironically) would face the highest-ranked opponent in OU.  OSU vs Oregon, as previously stated.  LSU would kind of be screwed, playing a less-highly ranked team in the Sugar.  
Either a rematch with UGA, vs Wisconsin, Penn St, rematch with Florida....none of which would overly impress anyone.  They'd just hope enough voters keep the incumbent #1 team at #1.
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2019, 01:39:03 PM »
If it was during the BCS computer era, 1 vs 2, and big, bad Clemson was left out - do you think it would be enough to create additional tweaks to the BCS system or blow the whole thing up?
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2019, 01:41:18 PM »
depends on the conference commish and how much money was left on the table

Michigan and the Big Ten made things happen
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Re: If we didn't have a playoff...
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2019, 01:49:33 PM »
The whole mindset of the voters is different now, with the playoff.  In the past, you'd often (not always) get a pass for a close win.  As long as it wasn't a trend, you were safe on your perch.  "Everyone has a close call" was an oft-used phrase.  

But now, because 4 are 'in' instead of just 1 or 2, they're more likely to demote you for a poor showing...because the consequences are nill.  
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