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Cincydawg · « **Reply #336 on:** August 10, 2024, 02:32:49 PM »

I’m not saying it was aliens but. ….

847badgerfan · « **Reply #337 on:** August 10, 2024, 03:23:15 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 10, 2024, 01:34:08 PM

I know where live. But $8.99/lb for boneless skinless chicken breast seems like the kind of thing you'd find here, at Gelson's Market (upscale compared to Whole Foods), in Newport Beach. And even then only for organic.

What's up with food prices in Florida??

Trucking. Loads come down here from all over the country, and you can't get much further South than we are. I mean, when you get to Florida, you're still another 6 hours from here.

Then the trucks leave, often with nothing loaded outside of citrus, and sugar.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #338 on:** August 10, 2024, 03:42:19 PM »

Interesting. I would say that I wouldn't have thought shipping costs would be THAT big of an issue.

But then I think about where I live. We have two MAJOR ports, which means we've got container ships showing up to be unloaded onto trains constantly, and we've got 20M+ people in this metro area, so it would make sense that there are a LOT of consumers here so anything that can be put on a train on the way here helps, so trains can be pretty full going both ways.

I mean, the costs I quoted were based on bulk packs from Costco, so there's savings there, but it still seems crazy that you're paying >2x for wings and ~3x for chicken breast. I wonder what those items cost at your local Costco--a Google Maps search suggests you've got one ~30 min away?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #339 on:** August 10, 2024, 03:52:25 PM »

Costco is 45-60 minutes depending on traffic. We are supposed to get one in the next five years.

We have BJ's and Sams closer, but I'm not a fan of either.

We have Publix, Aldi, Walmart and Winn Dixie close. Meh on the latter three, except for some items at Aldi can be decent. And we have a place called Farmer Joe's, which is more $ than Publix.

MaximumSam · « **Reply #340 on:** August 10, 2024, 05:10:45 PM »

Aldi is awesome

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #341 on:** August 10, 2024, 06:03:17 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2024, 03:52:25 PM

Costco is 45-60 minutes depending on traffic. We are supposed to get one in the next five years.

We have BJ's and Sams closer, but I'm not a fan of either.

We have Publix, Aldi, Walmart and Winn Dixie close. Meh on the latter three, except for some items at Aldi can be decent. And we have a place called Farmer Joe's, which is more $ than Publix.

Ditto all of that here as well and how I feel about them. Publix is awesome. Clean, super well stocked, great meat, fish and produce. You can’t work there unless you know about good customer service. But…. High priced on many things.
Winn Dixie ok for generic things ( coffee, cereal, noodles, etc) and often less expensive, but not nearly as clean and organized, and the employees often less than friendly.

utee94 · « **Reply #342 on:** August 10, 2024, 06:25:41 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 10, 2024, 02:11:14 PM

According to this, using 2019 is a bit of cherry-picking... 2019 was the lowest price for a dozen eggs since 2006, at $1.40/dozen. 2018 was $1.76, and back in 2015 it was as high as $2.47.

National price is currently $2.71, suggesting NEARLY 100% price inflation (94%), but only if you use a statistically very cheap year for eggs. If you started with 2018 it'd be 54% and if you used 2020 it'd be 79%.

Also note that using a single commodity is difficult, because it may reflect factors beyond simple inflation. For example, the rise of bird flu and the rising costs to mitigate it.

So the price dropped when Trump was president, and increased under Biden. I think you've made the R's point for them.

FearlessF · « **Reply #343 on:** August 10, 2024, 08:11:34 PM »

I'll just retire here and put up with the snow............

$2.98 fresh ground beef
$3.88 fresh boneless skinless chicken breasts
$16.98 lb angus reserve boneless ribeye
$8.99 boneless sirloin
$2.77 Oscar Mayer hot dogs

847badgerfan · « **Reply #344 on:** August 11, 2024, 08:34:51 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 10, 2024, 06:03:17 PM

Ditto all of that here as well and how I feel about them. Publix is awesome. Clean, super well stocked, great meat, fish and produce. You can’t work there unless you know about good customer service. But…. High priced on many things.
Winn Dixie ok for generic things ( coffee, cereal, noodles, etc) and often less expensive, but not nearly as clean and organized, and the employees often less than friendly.

Do you have Kroger over there? We had Kroger back North in the form of Mariano's. Bob Mariano left Roundy's and started his own store, taking many of the former Dominick's locations. Those stores were great and forced others to step up their game. The Kroger came in and bought all of the Mariano's stores. They didn't mess them up, which was good.

And yes, Publix is great. Just expensive. I watch for BOGO's and we pretty much only buy that stuff now.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #345 on:** August 11, 2024, 08:50:19 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 11, 2024, 08:34:51 AM

Do you have Kroger over there? We had Kroger back North in the form of Mariano's. Bob Mariano left Roundy's and started his own store, taking many of the former Dominick's locations. Those stores were great and forced others to step up their game. The Kroger came in and bought all of the Mariano's stores. They didn't mess them up, which was good.

And yes, Publix is great. Just expensive. I watch for BOGO's and we pretty much only buy that stuff now.

Same. They have those often.
no Kroger here. That was the go to back in Michigan.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #346 on:** August 11, 2024, 08:57:21 AM »

It would be nice to have Kroger come so Publix has some competition!

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #347 on:** August 11, 2024, 01:33:06 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on August 10, 2024, 06:25:41 PM

So the price dropped when Trump was president, and increased under Biden. I think you've made the R's point for them.

Well, it does get a little bit difficult... We can look at the four years of Trump's presidency, as he came into office in Jan 2017:

2017: Good job, Donny! You dropped the price of eggs from Obama's last year (1.68) to 1.47. Well done! That's effective leadership!
2018: Wait, you rose the price of eggs to 1.74? That's even higher than it was in Obama's last year. What the hell were you thinking? How are families going to deal with your piss-poor leadership?
2019: Whew! Down to 1.40! I guess you figured things out, Donny, and we're back to good leadership. Making ~~America~~ Eggs Great Again!
2020: 1.51?! You let the price of eggs go UP again? Why would you do that? You've had 4 years to learn how to govern, and you're letting the price of eggs rise?! I guess you don't really want to get reelected, do you? You want to blame the Democrats for stealing the election, but maybe you just had a big target on your back from the egg lobby...

Or, maybe, just maybe, we can all agree that the President isn't responsible for the price of eggs

utee94 · « **Reply #348 on:** August 11, 2024, 02:01:15 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 11, 2024, 01:33:06 PM

Well, it does get a little bit difficult... We can look at the four years of Trump's presidency, as he came into office in Jan 2017:

2017: Good job, Donny! You dropped the price of eggs from Obama's last year (1.68) to 1.47. Well done! That's effective leadership!
2018: Wait, you rose the price of eggs to 1.74? That's even higher than it was in Obama's last year. What the hell were you thinking? How are families going to deal with your piss-poor leadership?
2019: Whew! Down to 1.40! I guess you figured things out, Donny, and we're back to good leadership. Making ~~America~~ Eggs Great Again!
2020: 1.51?! You let the price of eggs go UP again? Why would you do that? You've had 4 years to learn how to govern, and you're letting the price of eggs rise?! I guess you don't really want to get reelected, do you? You want to blame the Democrats for stealing the election, but maybe you just had a big target on your back from the egg lobby...

Or, maybe, just maybe, we can all agree that the President isn't responsible for the price of eggs

2020 was when Sleepy Joe was elected. Donny's only responsible for the price up to October.

And I've never asserted that the president influences the price of eggs. I've only suggested that people vote with their wallets and there are many cases, including the price of eggs, where people are worse off financially than they were 4 years ago.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #349 on:** August 11, 2024, 02:05:43 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 10, 2024, 06:03:17 PM

Ditto all of that here as well and how I feel about them. Publix is awesome. Clean, super well stocked, great meat, fish and produce. You can’t work there unless you know about good customer service. But…. High priced on many things.
Winn Dixie ok for generic things ( coffee, cereal, noodles, etc) and often less expensive, but not nearly as clean and organized, and the employees often less than friendly.

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