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Topic: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness

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FearlessF

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #574 on: January 10, 2024, 11:42:58 AM »
yup
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #575 on: January 10, 2024, 12:14:11 PM »
I don’t see JJ as a round 1 QB. I’d take a flier on him in the 2nd for sure though.

He has the obvious raw physical tools, very athletic for the position, live arm, legit 6’3ish. But he’s still too slight- he needs to hit the gym and bulk up- and he’s way too god damn inconsistent and needs to improve reading defenses, decision making/processing, pocket presence, foot work, etc..

If JJ can put on 10-15 pounds of muscle and improve all the parts of his game he’s deficient in- he’d have a real shot to vault to #1 overall territory.
Teams get QB desperate.  Christian Ponder was a first round QB.  That was a reach at the time it happened

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #576 on: January 10, 2024, 12:17:30 PM »
Mmmmmm Samantha Ponder....

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #577 on: January 10, 2024, 12:37:04 PM »
better arm than her husband

wonder if they're still married
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #578 on: January 10, 2024, 12:40:14 PM »
better arm than her husband

wonder if they're still married
Why would she keep that name if not?

He should have been a WR considering his ability to catch things he had no business catching

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #579 on: January 10, 2024, 01:20:05 PM »
good call Don Brown...


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IN fairness, Dantonio was pretty damn good at identifying DB talent, and he didn't even kick the tires on a kid from Detroit.  Indiana was his only Big Ten offer.  Today, he probably would have transferred to a Big Ten school.

Looking at the DBs those schools did recruit in his class.  UM got Daxton Hill; but otherwise, Jalen Perry, DJ Turner, Quinten Johnson.  Woof.  Mike Saintrisil converting was easily their 2nd best DB

MSU had Julian Barnett, who was a bust, and Jase Bowen, who opted to play baseball

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #580 on: January 10, 2024, 03:30:03 PM »
IN fairness, Dantonio was pretty damn good at identifying DB talent, and he didn't even kick the tires on a kid from Detroit.  Indiana was his only Big Ten offer.  Today, he probably would have transferred to a Big Ten school.

Looking at the DBs those schools did recruit in his class.  UM got Daxton Hill; but otherwise, Jalen Perry, DJ Turner, Quinten Johnson.  Woof.  Mike Saintrisil converting was easily their 2nd best DB.
100%. Dax Hill was a freaking stud and Mikey S turned out to be a hell of a player at nickel. Perry was just awful and Johnson is a solid career backup. DJ Turner was mediocre as it gets. Was quite frankly not that good at Michigan. Only reason he got drafted in the 2nd rd is cause he ran a 4.2 in the 40.

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #581 on: January 10, 2024, 03:31:45 PM »
Teams get QB desperate.  Christian Ponder was a first round QB.  That was a reach at the time it happened
Very true. 

was simply saying if I was in charge, wouldn’t touch him with anything higher than a 2nd rd pick max. 

JJ definitely has some 1st rd raw physical tools, but none of the production or polish to match. 

Not worth the risk at the moment imo.

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #582 on: January 10, 2024, 05:11:39 PM »
Saban retiring?

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #583 on: January 10, 2024, 05:29:33 PM »
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
-Mark Twain

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #584 on: January 10, 2024, 06:02:08 PM »

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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #585 on: January 10, 2024, 06:08:37 PM »
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Re: 2023-2024 NYD/CFP Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #586 on: January 10, 2024, 06:55:47 PM »
and one of those only 2 TD's allowed was in his first game ever as an 18 year old true freshman....lol. 

best CB in CFB. future top 5-10 NFL draft pick. Pat Surtain II clone. 


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