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Topic: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)

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MaximumSam

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #210 on: September 05, 2021, 11:29:38 PM »
My problem with that call is no one was around, so it should be intentional grounding if it was a pass. Missed it anyway.

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #211 on: September 05, 2021, 11:42:46 PM »
The transfer portal has made things pretty silly.  I was watching Florida vs FAU and it took 6 min before they mentioned one of their players that WASN'T a transfer.
QB from Miami
RB from South Florida
WR from Clemson
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I know it's similar everywhere, but I think for the G5 programs, no one they recruited and signed ever touches the ball.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #212 on: September 05, 2021, 11:51:42 PM »
My problem with that call is no one was around, so it should be intentional grounding if it was a pass. Missed it anyway.
I wonder if there's an "intent" element there. Like it gets bunched in with weird foibles that just get overlooked. 

(The end of regulation one probably was?)

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #213 on: September 05, 2021, 11:54:07 PM »
Makes me feel old. ND's OC is Tommy Rees, who I was playing QB for them what feels like yesterday. Their DC is Marcus Freeman, who I remember being recruited and then playing for OSU.
Feel better, he only got the job at age 28. He's a year younger than Kenny Guiton

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #214 on: September 05, 2021, 11:57:23 PM »
I wonder if there's an "intent" element there. Like it gets bunched in with weird foibles that just get overlooked.

(The end of regulation one probably was?)
I guess, though intent doesn't matter if a receiver is in the area, even if grounding is what was clearly intended.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #215 on: September 06, 2021, 04:46:29 AM »
I guess, though internet doesn't matter if a receiver is in the area, even if grounding is what was clearly intended.
They can only focus on one thing at a time.  I liken it to when the catcher is set up on the outside corner, but the pitch hits the inside corner.  But due to missing the target so badly, that strike is almost never called.  
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #216 on: September 06, 2021, 09:15:46 AM »
I was amazed how large the strike zone would be for Maddux and Glavine.


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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #217 on: September 06, 2021, 09:32:36 AM »
Specially Maddox he's hit guys and Ump called it "STE - RIKE"
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #218 on: September 06, 2021, 10:47:07 AM »
So I catalogued the missed opportunities for Purdue...

Here’s the ones I count:

  • Bell PI: It was a blatant PI. The DB tackled Bell in the end zone on a perfectly thrown pass, well before the ball got there, where Bell had position.  That was a sure TD. Instead, that brought up 4th down, two penalties pushed us out of FG range, and 7 points turned into zero. Granted, the refs were to blame for this one, but it would have been a big momentum boost for the Boilers.
  • Anthrop dropped TD pass: Hard as hell catch, but having a FG instead of a TD there is a -4 point swing.
  • Fake FG/INT: The FG was potentially 3 points—if Durham secures that ball, it’s not a TD on that play, but it sets us up with first and goal inside the 5, so potentially 7 points. Instead it was zero. I'll call it a -4 point swing because even if he makes the catch but you don't get the TD, then it's a chip shot.
  • 1st and Goal at the 5 / 2nd and goal at the 1: We got three points out of it, but you need to be able to punch it in there for 7. So that was -4 points from expectation.
  • Milton dropped TD pass: No excuse for that drop. Another -4 point swing.


That's 23 points basically just left on the field. 

And I realize someone can look at that and say it's one-sided and OrSU must have had similar chances... But no. They really didn't. Probably their biggest missed opportunities were turning it over on downs 3 times... But that's somewhat of an outgrowth of being 5-14 on third down, and while they had decent field position on all of them, it's not like they were giving up a FG to go for it--they were still in punt range if they didn't go for it.  

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #219 on: September 06, 2021, 01:31:08 PM »
Holy Cross v uconn getting a TV in my cave right now.


At what point does UConn kick football to the curb? Already off to one of college football’s worst ever starts.

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #220 on: September 06, 2021, 01:39:27 PM »
Mo Ibrahim out for the season. 

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #221 on: September 06, 2021, 01:45:54 PM »
So I catalogued the missed opportunities for Purdue...

Here’s the ones I count:

  • Bell PI: It was a blatant PI. The DB tackled Bell in the end zone on a perfectly thrown pass, well before the ball got there, where Bell had position.  That was a sure TD. Instead, that brought up 4th down, two penalties pushed us out of FG range, and 7 points turned into zero. Granted, the refs were to blame for this one, but it would have been a big momentum boost for the Boilers.
  • Anthrop dropped TD pass: Hard as hell catch, but having a FG instead of a TD there is a -4 point swing.
  • Fake FG/INT: The FG was potentially 3 points—if Durham secures that ball, it’s not a TD on that play, but it sets us up with first and goal inside the 5, so potentially 7 points. Instead it was zero. I'll call it a -4 point swing because even if he makes the catch but you don't get the TD, then it's a chip shot.
  • 1st and Goal at the 5 / 2nd and goal at the 1: We got three points out of it, but you need to be able to punch it in there for 7. So that was -4 points from expectation.
  • Milton dropped TD pass: No excuse for that drop. Another -4 point swing.


That's 23 points basically just left on the field.

And I realize someone can look at that and say it's one-sided and OrSU must have had similar chances... But no. They really didn't. Probably their biggest missed opportunities were turning it over on downs 3 times... But that's somewhat of an outgrowth of being 5-14 on third down, and while they had decent field position on all of them, it's not like they were giving up a FG to go for it--they were still in punt range if they didn't go for it. 

The OL has some issues to sort out.  If they fix some things this week and pummel UConn, I'd be optimistic going into the ND game.  Maybe not for the upset, but for how the season as a whole turns out.

On the flip side, I was very impressed with the defense.  They came up big with multiple 4th down stops, and critical 3rd down stops, as well as a nice interception to stop OSU.

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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #222 on: September 06, 2021, 01:54:04 PM »
Mo Ibrahim out for the season.
That's terrible. Feel really bad for him.
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Re: Hide Your Cheese Ma There's A Lion Out There (SOC 9/4/21)
« Reply #223 on: September 06, 2021, 02:16:48 PM »

At what point does UConn kick football to the curb? Already off to one of college football’s worst ever starts.

Really? Not a coaching change? Not dropping down to FCS? Just eliminating the sport altogether? I dunno, seems a mite drastic to me. 
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