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Topic: Have you noticed climate change where you live?

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2023, 11:14:05 PM »
It's rained a lot more this year than it did the last two before that. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2023, 11:29:49 PM »
It's rained a lot more this year than it did the last two before that.
Except in June.  Everything turned brown in June this year

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2023, 11:39:07 PM »
Not a fan of this thread.
"Hey everybody, got any anecdotal evidence?"  I get it, it's harmless.  But still.

The statistics tell us everything we need to know. 
Yes, the question is about perception, and my perception is that things haven't changed much in the Midwest,  in fact the weather seems less extreme in recent decades to me.

Now I know in reality the stats say the average temps are up in recent years and I am not arguing that.    I believe climate change is real and there will be consequences.  It just doesn't feel like the weather has gotten any worse, that's all. 

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2023, 12:18:41 AM »
Not a fan of this thread.
"Hey everybody, got any anecdotal evidence?"  I get it, it's harmless.  But still.

The statistics tell us everything we need to know. 
You're right.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2023, 12:43:10 AM »
Your fun lil graph there ignores any and all improvements in fire prevention the last 100 years.
Cute.
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2023, 01:21:17 AM »
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/wildfires-broke-records-around-the-world-in-2021/

Yet, these are world record fires!!!!!  since we've been tracking carbon emission ......in 2003.
Quit telling me these are records.  the Science, the MF ing US Gov't Forest Service begs to differ in a massive way.

we still have better baseball records than we do climate records.

how does my cute graph ignore, it simply tells us how much burning we've seen in the US the past century.   You choose to wave away the science!!!!

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2023, 02:49:45 AM »
"the science"

Sheesh.
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2023, 04:43:29 AM »
Again this is about perception and my perception is based more on peak temps than the average temps.  So if you look at the peak temps each year in Chicago, why would you feel like things are getting hotter? 


101June 21, 2022  38
96August 24, 2021  36
96August 24, 2020  36
97July 20, 201936
96August 27, 2018 +36
95June 12, 201735
94September 07, 2016 +34
95August 02, 201535
93June 17, 2014 +34
97July 19, 201336
105July 06, 201241
101July 21, 201138
95July 23, 201035
93June 25, 2009 +34
95September 02, 200835
94July 09, 200734
99August 01, 2006 +37
104July 24, 200540
92July 22, 2004 +33
97August 21, 200336
98July 21, 200237
97July 22, 200136
94September 01, 2000 +34
104July 30, 199940
97June 25, 199836
99July 26, 199737
94August 07, 1996 +34
106July 13, 199541
96July 05, 199436
95August 26, 199335
93August 09, 199234
102August 02, 1991 +39
100July 04, 199038
101July 10, 198938
104June 25, 198840
99June 14, 198737
97July 19, 198636
97June 08, 198536
98July 10, 198437
100July 28, 1983 +38
95August 03, 198235
95July 12, 198135
1980
92August 07, 197933
95September 08, 197835
99July 15, 197737
100July 10, 197638
94August 11, 1975 +34
99July 14, 1974 +37
97August 27, 1973 +36
96July 22, 197236
101June 28, 1971 +38
99July 02, 197037
96June 26, 196936
96June 23, 1968 +36
93May 26, 196734
98July 10, 196637
94July 23, 1965 +34
98August 03, 196437
99July 01, 196337
96August 20, 196236
95August 31, 1961 +35
100September 07, 196038
96September 08, 1959 +36
94August 30, 195834
96June 17, 195736
103July 01, 195639
100July 27, 195538
100June 25, 195438
104June 20, 195340
101June 28, 195238
92August 31, 1951 +33
93August 16, 1950 +34
102July 03, 194939
98August 24, 194837
101August 06, 194738
100July 18, 194638
99July 31, 1945 +37
100June 27, 194438
97June 27, 194336
100July 17, 194238


Again I know it's misleading and the average temps are in fact going up but that does not seem to mean the hottest day of the year has been going up.



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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2023, 07:24:42 AM »
Hot as shit where I am right now.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2023, 07:28:56 AM »
Not a fan of this thread.
"Hey everybody, got any anecdotal evidence?"  I get it, it's harmless.  But still.

The statistics tell us everything we need to know. 
And you completely missed my point in posting this.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2023, 08:01:24 AM »
I postulated on the other thread that a reason some folks don't really accept CC as a "fact" is they haven't noticed it themselves.  The poll suggests most of us have, perhaps that was influenced by media reports to some extent.

The evidence suggest things have warmed by 1.1°C over the past century.  I wondered if that was enough to notice without data.  It seems that it is.  I checked the second box myself mostly based on my recollection of winter when I was a kid.

Then the question would be how much shift would be needed for nearly everyone to agree it's getting hotter (without reading up on the "news" and evidence and figures etc.).

I'd note that it remains difficult to measure a "global mean temperature", maybe it's really impossible.

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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2023, 08:06:54 AM »
Hard to notice 1.1C
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2023, 08:18:43 AM »

Flood zone maps in our community of 5,000 were redrawn circa 2013. I would guess 40% or more of this town is now in a 500-year or 100-year flood plain (fortunately the 500-year ends just across the street in the backyards of my neighbors.). Anyone getting a mortgage loan in the 500-year flood plain will likely have to purchase flood insurance.



Find a different lender, because this is not the case. There is no basis for calculating what a 500-year storm is. It's all based on extrapolation and is not reliable.
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Re: Have you noticed climate change where you live?
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2023, 08:19:15 AM »
Hence the fire graph.   Poll folks now and ask them if we are seeing more , the same or less wildfires in the US since early 20th C.   Is there any doubt what such a poll would tell us?

People act like wildfires are some recent phenomenon getting worse cuz of fossil fuels or something. 

 

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